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In reply to the discussion: This says it all right here, folks. [View all]summer_in_TX
(4,074 posts)53. Jesus gave a simple test to know those who followed him.
By the Fruits of the Spirit you will know them: joy, peace, love, goodness, kindness, patience, gentleness, faithfulness, self-control.
I don't agree with you, not fully. Jesus told his followers to be discerning. Some aren't discerning and are fools. And he said there would be plenty who called his name but weren't his. They delude themselves or worse, masquerade as Christians because it gives them something they want: respectability, access to power.
Matthew 7:15 and 21-23
15 Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves
21 Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles? 23 Then I will tell them plainly, I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!
15 Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves
21 Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles? 23 Then I will tell them plainly, I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!
From this verse, I'd say you could refer to true Christians and false ones. False Christians don't try to discern and follow God's will. They're working for their own benefit, mainly. And some are evil.
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We have to stop calling them Christian. They are not Christian. They use the term as a
themaguffin
Apr 2022
#3
Maybe that was the poster's point - they aren't Christians because they're doing it wrong.
Probatim
Apr 2022
#16
Or they're self-satisfied pricks who lord their religiosity over lesser folks.
Probatim
Apr 2022
#19
The only entry requirement for being a Christian is identifying as a Christian
Major Nikon
Apr 2022
#12
It sounds as if you are reading more into statements so you can refute them
Major Nikon
Apr 2022
#60
That's my point, they aren't practicing the faith. They are counter to the Gospel.
themaguffin
Apr 2022
#31
Christian is as Christian does; there is no test that all Christian denominations agree to
NullTuples
Apr 2022
#43