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56. How of "no true Scotsman" getting invoked is itself the fallacy fallacy?

Fri Apr 22, 2022, 07:53 AM

Apr 2022

It is entirely possible to make a claim that is false yet argue with logical coherency for that claim, just as it is possible to make a claim that is true and justify it with various fallacies and poor arguments.

Example: Recognising that Amanda had committed a fallacy in arguing that we should eat healthy food because a nutritionist said it was popular, Alyse said we should therefore eat bacon double cheeseburgers every day.

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This says it all right here, folks. [View all] kpete Apr 2022 OP

Exactly. niyad Apr 2022 #1

Or at least nothing to do with Jesus Geechie Apr 2022 #2

well christians, followers of christ (jesus christ) .... w0nderer Apr 2022 #27

You would think! But Geechie Apr 2022 #32

We have to stop calling them Christian. They are not Christian. They use the term as a themaguffin Apr 2022 #3

If they aren't Christians, what are they, exactly? Mariana Apr 2022 #7

I'm sure someone will correct me but Pharisees or Sadducees might be accurate. Probatim Apr 2022 #8

Has anyone said that the Pharisees and the Sadducees weren't Jewish? Mariana Apr 2022 #14

Maybe that was the poster's point - they aren't Christians because they're doing it wrong. Probatim Apr 2022 #16

If they aren't Christians, they must be something else. Mariana Apr 2022 #18

Or they're self-satisfied pricks who lord their religiosity over lesser folks. Probatim Apr 2022 #19

History has very clearly shown us Mariana Apr 2022 #23

Absolutely right wryter2000 Apr 2022 #34

Yes. I call them::: Political Christians rather than Christians of faith. keithbvadu2 Apr 2022 #42

I like this labeling. ShazzieB Apr 2022 #49

The only entry requirement for being a Christian is identifying as a Christian Major Nikon Apr 2022 #12

They've hijacked the label.. Permanut Apr 2022 #15

I think in most cases, their faith is genuine. Mariana Apr 2022 #17

Their belief in themselves as righteous is true mnhtnbb Apr 2022 #39

Jesus gave a simple test to know those who followed him. summer_in_TX Apr 2022 #53

Assholes whose beliefs are counter to the Gospel. themaguffin Apr 2022 #24

SELFISH cynical_idealist Apr 2022 #25

How about Marc Maron's description? wryter2000 Apr 2022 #35

How about..? Whatthe_Firetruck Apr 2022 #51

Is there any time in history when this wasn't the case? Major Nikon Apr 2022 #10

For most of human history, wnylib Apr 2022 #29

Politics and religion use each other to gain power and wealth. keithbvadu2 Apr 2022 #40

It was Jewish self-governance that led to the execution of Jesus Major Nikon Apr 2022 #54

I would have responded to your post sooner, but wnylib Apr 2022 #59

It sounds as if you are reading more into statements so you can refute them Major Nikon Apr 2022 #60

The role of Paul as the founder of wnylib Apr 2022 #61

I didn't say it was biased, although it almost certainly is to some degree Major Nikon Apr 2022 #62

Sigh. Nearly every point you bring up wnylib May 2022 #63

I don't have a negative view of the series Major Nikon May 2022 #65

Regarding your view that wnylib May 2022 #64

No true Scotsman fallacy. Caliman73 Apr 2022 #28

That's my point, they aren't practicing the faith. They are counter to the Gospel. themaguffin Apr 2022 #31

How of "no true Scotsman" getting invoked is itself the fallacy fallacy? ck4829 Apr 2022 #56

I just call them A Morpheus Felinae Apr 2022 #38

Christian is as Christian does; there is no test that all Christian denominations agree to NullTuples Apr 2022 #43

It certainly says something Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #4

Sometimes a pithy statement says more than a newspaper's editorial page. Perfect! erronis Apr 2022 #5

You would think if they are banning books for profanity, etc, the bible Emile Apr 2022 #6

truth cannot be denied llashram Apr 2022 #9

But it can be punished. keithbvadu2 Apr 2022 #41

Indeed. Hypocrites Roc2020 Apr 2022 #11

It sure does! smh liberalla Apr 2022 #13

Bible shmible. twodogsbarking Apr 2022 #20

K&R ck4829 Apr 2022 #21

Love your neighbor. Marcuse Apr 2022 #22

Bible also says this... Caliman73 Apr 2022 #30

mic drop of the week at least! n/t w0nderer Apr 2022 #26

They love smiting and wrath IronLionZion Apr 2022 #33

K & R & Retweeted! SunSeeker Apr 2022 #36

There's no better way to say it. sarchasm Apr 2022 #37

Aunt Crabby nails it again. TomSlick Apr 2022 #44

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2022 #52

The 'good' thing about the Bible Aussie105 Apr 2022 #45

K&r Demovictory9 Apr 2022 #46

K&R - nt Ohio Joe Apr 2022 #47

HELL YEAH!!! calimary Apr 2022 #48

Thank You for Posting & Sharing With Us...K and R Stuart G Apr 2022 #50

k&r n/t lordsummerisle Apr 2022 #55

Bravo! (nt) Paladin Apr 2022 #57

And then there's the Catholic version. XacerbatedDem Apr 2022 #58