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BumRushDaShow

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48. Well the influenza viruses are configured and act differently than SARS CoV2
Fri Apr 22, 2022, 09:18 PM
Apr 2022

(sorry in advance for the below TMI )



And COVID-19 uses those spikes in a wild way to attach (like grappling hooks) to what would become a host cell and then does all sorts of wild chemical reactions to burst into that host cell (which could be located in the lungs or on a kidney, etc) and reproduce. Then on its way out, the babies make it so that the body's defenses have a hard time getting to the infected cell to clear it. It literally does a "MacGyver" to a cell to get in, reproduce, and then get out.






This is the image I continue to find wild (what I call "the grappling hooks" that pull it to the cell that it has attached to) -





This is what really differentiates it from the flu. With the variants of COVID changing what the spike looks like including "hiding" the changes from antibodies due to the new types of proteins that make up the spike, folding themselves over in a certain way to block those newly-changed segments from being accessed by antibodies, it makes it harder to fight.

And with respect to "the plague" - well that is caused by a bacteria and not a virus (bacteria are much bigger in size when compared to viruses), so once antibiotics were discovered and refined, that was pretty much the end of "the plague" (in humans)! That's why it stopped being "a threat" (as long as someone who is infected can get the antibiotics for it). I know it is still appearing in some areas like the west and southwest - including in places like CO or TX where there may be prairie dogs infected with it, and can pass it on.

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Hospitalizations so far not picking up which is great though. Lucky Luciano Apr 2022 #1
This is incorrect. Hospital rates are up AntivaxHunters Apr 2022 #18
Fair enough, but I don't count the eligible unvaccinated. They deserve what they get. Lucky Luciano Apr 2022 #21
That's not right of you to do though AntivaxHunters Apr 2022 #23
Some people have limited access to vaccinations nitpicker Apr 2022 #43
Also, carriers infect others. Right. We shouldn't copy antivaxxers Hortensis Apr 2022 #57
Genesse/Flint may be good at testing the water. May provide some advance clues empedocles Apr 2022 #2
Masks are quite effective even if only one person wearing one SheltieLover Apr 2022 #3
BA.2 (BA.2.1 & BA.2.2) . . .. Lovie777 Apr 2022 #4
Apparently BA.2.12.1 (for places that actually do subtyping, like in NY, but sadly not many others ) BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #10
Isn't it possible that there might be an advantage wnylib Apr 2022 #37
The vaccine makers have been working on ones that would try to deal with Omicron BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #39
I had the Asian flu in the 1957-58 pandemic. wnylib Apr 2022 #41
Well the influenza viruses are configured and act differently than SARS CoV2 BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #48
Yes, I'm aware that the Plague was caused by bacteria, not a virus. wnylib Apr 2022 #49
If you think about it BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #59
Thanks. Very interesting. My childhood wnylib Apr 2022 #64
It definitely sounds like quirks in the immune system BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #78
Sure looks like there is a connection between covid and wnylib Apr 2022 #83
That should hopefully be something for to really need to dive into BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #84
I heard about MIS-C in children soon after wnylib Apr 2022 #85
I have a small stash... 2naSalit Apr 2022 #5
I'm not surprised. llmart Apr 2022 #6
Case counts are meaningless. SoonerPride Apr 2022 #7
How does that work for infants and children? phylny Apr 2022 #11
It works just fine. SoonerPride Apr 2022 #24
Okay. phylny Apr 2022 #27
In "rare cases." SoonerPride Apr 2022 #29
"Infants and children are not the demographic threatened by Covid." phylny Apr 2022 #31
I guess we can disagree on what constitutues acceptable risk. SoonerPride Apr 2022 #32
It said that deaths were rare, not that wnylib Apr 2022 #35
Thank you. Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #54
Alas, my doctor is among those people, wnylib Apr 2022 #68
Polio and chicken pox are my main examples. Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #73
A very painful, crippling aftereffect of wnylib Apr 2022 #75
I keep talking about it, Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #77
We will pay the price down the road. wnylib Apr 2022 #82
Permenant? Zeitghost Apr 2022 #58
"Permenant? How could that even be known at this point?" BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #60
Is that really a serious question? wnylib Apr 2022 #70
Regarding long term heart disease wnylib Apr 2022 #71
Because of how BA.1 & BA.2.x is configured as a variant BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #33
Exactly correct! beaglelover Apr 2022 #14
Covid is just too tricky of a virus for me to treat lightly Siwsan Apr 2022 #15
"Case counts are meaningless." BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #25
OK, add the word "essentially" SoonerPride Apr 2022 #28
Sorry to have dropped that load on you BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #30
I think that's easy to say if you live in an area with low spread, but some of us aren't that lucky liberal_mama Apr 2022 #36
Oklahoma has averaged 75 cases a day for the two weeks. SoonerPride Apr 2022 #38
So people who wear masks aren't living? Who knew. Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #55
+1 gulliver Apr 2022 #88
Post removed Post removed Apr 2022 #8
Buh-bye! demmiblue Apr 2022 #12
I keep missing the comments of the trolls who attack my Covid posts!! Siwsan Apr 2022 #13
Would you like me to... AntivaxHunters Apr 2022 #19
Sure! Siwsan Apr 2022 #22
Post removed Post removed Apr 2022 #50
Yer gonna go bye bye Sugarcoated Apr 2022 #51
Enjoy your stay. ancianita Apr 2022 #52
lol what did that person say? AntivaxHunters Apr 2022 #65
It was blasting right wing talking points about COVID. ancianita Apr 2022 #67
Of course! AntivaxHunters Apr 2022 #69
Yes, keep on masking! Quakerfriend Apr 2022 #9
There was not one Covid patient in the Hospital where hubs had his surgery...big hospital. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #16
Funny thing - I haven't had a cold in over 2 years. Siwsan Apr 2022 #17
No colds or anything else for me since June 2013! Knock wood! Lucky Luciano Apr 2022 #26
COVID is not the cold, or a flu. Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #56
we also jumped up this week in my state bigtree Apr 2022 #20
Adding one (my) data point. Precipice_dweller Apr 2022 #34
Welcome to DU BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #42
I'm glad you recovered. Welcome to DU. NNadir Apr 2022 #79
I got you beat. We're up 138% over 2 weeks ago. Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #40
Another 303 have died in Kansas since April 1st Bengus81 Apr 2022 #44
Arlington County VA just upticked to 100 cases a day nitpicker Apr 2022 #45
Spring break ended Monday. Got a notice from the school today there was a positive case. haele Apr 2022 #46
10 new cases in the past 2 wks here in my home county in Upper Michigan Kaleva Apr 2022 #47
This number can be very deceiving. When counts are low, even a few more people can make Quixote1818 Apr 2022 #53
This is why both metrics need to be looked at BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #61
Surely the coalmine canaries are exhausted by now? BSdetect Apr 2022 #62
I'm hoping TheFarseer Apr 2022 #63
You can't do this again? AntivaxHunters Apr 2022 #66
If masks limit the spread, then why aren't they working in S. Korea, Germany, and Vietnam? Yavin4 Apr 2022 #74
Masks limit the spread AntivaxHunters Apr 2022 #76
The virus is seasonal. Yavin4 Apr 2022 #72
seasonal, meaning any occasion where large numbers of numbskulls gather unprotected bigtree Apr 2022 #80
The virus spreads in places where people don't crowd as well. Yavin4 Apr 2022 #86
Antartica wasn't responsible for spreading it into my state bigtree Apr 2022 #87
We cannot stop the virus from spreading no matter what we do. Yavin4 Apr 2022 #89
"There's nothing that we can do about the spread." False. bigtree Apr 2022 #90
Two years of rising cases across the country and the planet Yavin4 Apr 2022 #92
I'm working up my own anecdotal report bigtree Apr 2022 #93
"The only control we have is to get vaccinated and boosted regularly." BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #81
130% Here, But... ProfessorGAC Apr 2022 #91
On the way back from the Big Island to Germany DFW Apr 2022 #94
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