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dutch777

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6. Ok but at what point do we start counseling students on good vs. bad educational investments?
Fri Apr 29, 2022, 09:04 AM
Apr 2022

Letting colleges and other post secondary education schools take advantage of students (and now the taxpayers really) by providing degrees that are not rewarded in the job market and way too costly, requiring for many loans that will punish for a decade or more seems completely irresponsible. I get the idea of a "good liberal education" benefiting society with a better educated citizenry and God know we need more of that, but at what cost? We have a niece who studied zoology and short of getting a PhD, her options are a very poor paying job in a zoo at best. Right now she is just hopping from one unpaid zoo internship to the next hoping to find an opening somewhere. Luckily her parents had the wherewithal to pay as she went and she didn't go to a $40k a year school but they are heading to retirement and may still have to carry her financially.

Counseling in high school really needs to step up and offer not only the "how to get into college" or other school but be clear if there is a career path beyond that and what is the cost of getting there and the liklihood that you will even be able to get a job in the field. I know our local public schools push kids to go to college and ignore the tech and trade schools just so they can say they have 72% or whatever of the graduating class accepted to college because that is a metric of "academic success" for the school district. But no one tracks if the graduates complete their degree, get a job in their field of study or anything meaningful long term for society or the student. The current system is not good for our kids or the society.

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What a boost to the Economy that would be. ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2022 #1
I hear the soft sigh Sympthsical Apr 2022 #2
Cancel all student debt now. Magoo48 Apr 2022 #3
But but but Johnny2X2X Apr 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #5
+1, Well said. c-rational Apr 2022 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #11
While I don't like giving money to very rich people... BlueCheeseAgain Apr 2022 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #18
Ok but at what point do we start counseling students on good vs. bad educational investments? dutch777 Apr 2022 #6
We already do that Johnny2X2X Apr 2022 #7
I don't agree there is "extensive counseling" about debt. former9thward Apr 2022 #10
Also, why can't students research what typical salaries in their proposed field of study are? MichMan Apr 2022 #12
Exactly SickOfTheOnePct Apr 2022 #13
Reminder Biden never promised to eliminate all student loans. Up to 10k. FloridaBlues Apr 2022 #9
Will those people who paid off their debt or paid for their education get a rebate? marie999 Apr 2022 #15
I'll say this as someone who stands to gain a lot, personally, from cancelling student debt. BlueCheeseAgain Apr 2022 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #19
so has the President, who has actually done more to help than Schumer's Senate majority bigtree Apr 2022 #17
has schumer introduced any debt cancelling legislation? nt msongs Apr 2022 #20
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