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In reply to the discussion: Noah: Give it up for Kyrsten Sinema. Who'd ever thought we'd see the day in American politics when a [View all]Celerity
(54,325 posts)17. I disagree with your framing, and I could not care less about what some dismal RW sites/blogs
think.
It is pointless to primary Manchin, as he is the only Dem who can win that seat, but atm he is above water only because of Republicans. The big question for him in 2024 is can he beat Justice (who has outflanked him on the left and the right) IF Justice (a billionaire who can self fund if need be) runs. If Justice doesn't run, then Manchin's prospects go up (IF he runs, which I am fairly sure he will).
https://morningconsult.com/2022/04/25/joe-manchins-approach-paying-off/

They are probably drooling at the prospect of picking up Sinema's seat
Ruben Gallego would make sure there is far less of a chance of that happening if he defeats her in the 2024 Democratic AZ primaries.
Possible challenger surges, as Sinema promises big donors shell protect their tax breaks
Mitch McConnell says he hopes Sinema's opposition "will be enough to keep this thing underwater permanently"
https://www.salon.com/2022/04/13/likely-primary-challenger-surges-as-sinema-promises-corporate-donors-shell-protect-their-breaks/
Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, D-Ariz., assured corporate donors on Tuesday that she would fight her party's efforts to unwind tax breaks for America's elite as Democrats try to revive portions of President Biden's stalled Build Back Better plan. Sinema, who has received more than $900,000 in donations from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and other industry groups opposing Biden's plan, attended an event held by the Arizona Chamber of Commerce and Industry in Phoenix to assuage donors' concerns that the renewed spending negotiations may threaten their low tax rates.
"What I can't tell you is if negotiations will start again or what they'll look like," she said. "But what I can promise you is that I'll be the same person in negotiations if they start again that I was in negotiations last year." Sinema assured the group that she would oppose raising taxes on corporations with her pivotal vote in the 50-50 Senate. "You all know, the entire country knows, that I'm opposed to raising the corporate minimum tax rate," she said, adding that she opposes "any tax policies that would put a brake on any type of economic growth or forestall business and personal growth for America's industries."
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Rep. Ruben Gallego, D-Ariz., has emerged as a leading potential progressive primary foe after repeatedly calling out Sinema, though he would have to compete with a well-funded effort backed by Sinema's corporate supporters if he chooses to challenge her in 2024. Gallego raised more than $510,000, a personal record, in the first three months of the year officially for his re-election bid in the House, which he is expected to win easily. That number is more than four times the amount he raised during the same period last election cycle, according to Insider. He raised a total of $1.8 million in 2020. Groups backing a potential primary challenger have also reported hundreds of thousands in donations.
Speculation about Sinema's political future has continued to mount. Along with her opposition to rolling back the Trump tax cuts, Sinema has opposed Democratic efforts to repeal the filibuster to pass legislation related to voting rights, LGBTQ protections, union protections and raising the minimum wage. Just 19% of Arizona Democratic primary voters have a favorable opinion of Sinema, according to a January Data for Progress poll, compared to 78% for fellow Sen. Mark Kelly, D-Ariz. The poll showed Gallego with a 58% favorable rating and leading Sinema by a 74-16 margin.
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Noah: Give it up for Kyrsten Sinema. Who'd ever thought we'd see the day in American politics when a [View all]
riversedge
Apr 2022
OP
What about Manchin? I use closed captioning, but it was not clear some of the time.
tblue37
May 2022
#15
Something about the most powerful politician in Washington as he briefly looked at Biden then said
MLAA
May 2022
#61
Oh geez..great line ! SAS to Senema ! (Spanish colloquial: a figurative kick to the gut ! )
RestoreAmerica2020
Apr 2022
#8
If anything, I think that Senator Sinema is more concerned by the censure that the Arizona Democrats
TexasTowelie
May 2022
#80
No, not in a midterm year. during the primary is appropriate which is two years away.
Demsrule86
May 2022
#52
You'll have your opportunity to express your displeasure when it counts in the 2024 primaries if she
TexasTowelie
May 2022
#115
That's exactly what her Democratic constituency in Arizona is waiting to see,
lees1975
May 2022
#120
Really. Most of her her campaign $ this year came from GOP PAC's, why would that be?
Yoyoyo77
May 2022
#78
Sinema and Manchin have been wrecking balls of destruction for large parts of Biden's and almost
Celerity
May 2022
#14
I disagree with your framing, and I could not care less about what some dismal RW sites/blogs
Celerity
May 2022
#17
I'm not going to search for it because I don't feel like I have to offer a ton of support
TexasTowelie
May 2022
#18
Never said you did, TT, but others have. I was only giving you background on why I do what I do.
Celerity
May 2022
#29
And you can also get a hide for posting actual facts. Because they're not popular facts.
oldsoftie
May 2022
#40
And I'll disagree with you since it really is a maybe or maybe not situation.
TexasTowelie
May 2022
#37
If we should lose our majorities in the House or Senate, I think that it will be for other reasons
TexasTowelie
May 2022
#31
Green energy development is not going to have any noticeable impact prior to the mid-terms.
TexasTowelie
May 2022
#77
I know what was in the BBB so don't insult me by assuming that I'm ignorant.
TexasTowelie
May 2022
#90
I know the setting, but I'm puzzled why so many here are taking glee in the slam.
TexasTowelie
May 2022
#33
Where would be a better place for Democrats to criticize a Democratic senator?
WhiskeyGrinder
May 2022
#36
The difference is that Senator Sinema is a Democrat and hasn't been bought out by the Russians
TexasTowelie
May 2022
#56
So criticism of Democratic senators, even from Democrats wanting Democrats to be better, is
WhiskeyGrinder
May 2022
#49
However, if you read through this thread you will see very few comments that actually want Senator
TexasTowelie
May 2022
#57
Do as you please, but criticizing a sitting Democratic Senator without whom, we would not
Demsrule86
May 2022
#53
Democratic Sen. Kyrsten Sinema Cheered By Conservatives For Applauding Trump Tax Cuts at SOTU
tenderfoot
May 2022
#100
Okay, if you live in Arizona you are welcome to vote for another candidate in the primary in 2024.
TexasTowelie
May 2022
#102
Sinema has her reasons as to her votes, even if we aren't satisfied with her explanations.
TexasTowelie
May 2022
#48
Check out how she tried to get McConnel's attention before she gave a thumbs down and did a curtsy.
helpisontheway
May 2022
#65
Yes, if you make an absurd statement then I will challenge it and ask for proof.
TexasTowelie
May 2022
#113
She refuses to explain her positions or meet with her voters - the criticism is warranted
tenderfoot
May 2022
#46
She did offer an explanation as to why she did not vote to remove the filibuster.
TexasTowelie
May 2022
#55
Criticism is allowed if backed by reasonable facts like voting against major Democratic initiatives.
Lucky Luciano
May 2022
#82
Best line of the night (in addition to all the deSantis jabs and President's jab about all Fox News
MLAA
May 2022
#58
He really made people think hard about a lot of things, and showed the inside/outside contradictions
bucolic_frolic
May 2022
#110