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Ms. Toad

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44. If you don't like my credentials,
Sun May 1, 2022, 01:44 PM
May 2022

Then perhaps you'll like the credentials of a bunch of Philly epidemiologists better:

For a deep dive into the evidence, we spoke to three epidemiologists who’ve been tracking COVID since the start: Maciej Boni of Pennsylvania State University, Thersa Sweet of Drexel University, and Abby Rudolph of Temple University.

What’s called a ‘pandemic’ anyway?
The words pandemic and epidemic are sometimes used in everyday conversation to suggest “a lot of cases.”

But we see lots of cases of flu every winter, and in most years, it isn’t called an epidemic.

Instead, an epidemic means a sudden rise in cases above what is expected. A pandemic is an epidemic occurring in multiple countries.

With COVID, the World Health Organization declared a pandemic to be underway in March 2020, after the virus had spread to more than 100 countries. Before long, it would indeed reach them all.

Yet it’s not correct to say that any one country is or isn’t in a pandemic phase, as that term applies to multiple countries, said Rudolph, an associate professor at Temple’s College of Public Health. That is, the U.S. could emerge from the epidemic phase while a pandemic remains underway globally.

So Fauci was wrong?
Technically, yes. The pandemic remains underway, even if maybe the U.S. might be emerging from the epidemic phase.


https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/anthony-fauci-news-covid-19-how-end-20220429.html

Or, perhaps even Dr. Fauci, when he "clarified" his misstatements.

Upon realizing he had overstated things, Fauci quickly made the rounds with the Associated Press and the Washington Post, acknowledging that no, we’re not quite there yet.


And, as to whether it is safe to go back to normal, you need to look farther than 4 x vaccinated Dr. Fauci's actions as to the correspondent's dinner:

Washington — Dr. Anthony Fauci, the president's chief medical adviser and the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, has decided not to attend the upcoming White House Correspondents' Dinner after making a personal assessment about the risk of COVID-19, he told CBS News on Wednesday.


His options were:

Attend without a mask, eat, and drink because, after all, he had just declared the pandemic over in the US
Attend with a mask, remove it while actively eating and drinking
Attend with a mask and avoid eating and drinking at all (remaining 100% masked)
Not attend at all.

Even with vaccinated and double boosted, Dr. Fauci did not feel it was safe enough to attend - even with a mask worn 100% of the time.

Once again, Dr. Fauci arrived at the same position I had taken earlier (and been blasted for), but was late to the party. As has happened every single time we have disagreed as to COVID.

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I'll believe him over any GQP . . .. Lovie777 Apr 2022 #1
According to his definition Dr. Shepper Apr 2022 #2
That's my take on the statement as well. Hugin Apr 2022 #4
Yes Zeitghost Apr 2022 #15
Currently. Hugin Apr 2022 #17
I've been on a number of fights in the last two years Zeitghost Apr 2022 #21
"I'm not sure the lifting of the mask requirement will have much an effect" BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #24
Masks can certainly slow the spread Zeitghost Apr 2022 #26
"Masks can certainly slow the spread" BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #29
Thanks for the meaty posts, BR. Hugin Apr 2022 #38
Sorry for the BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #39
Omicron was spread globally in less than a month due to air travel. Hugin Apr 2022 #37
Yes. And I am extremely disappointed in Dr. Fauci Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #23
Many of us have come to deeply respect Dr. Fauci Zeitghost Apr 2022 #27
While I agree that Dr. Fauci is, on the whole, fantastic - Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #30
So none then? Zeitghost Apr 2022 #31
Then be prepared to be late to the party, Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #35
I'm still waiting for your all's clear, Ms. T. Hugin Apr 2022 #40
If you don't like my credentials, Ms. Toad May 2022 #44
A couple of points Doc Sportello Apr 2022 #32
It's not either/or. It's and. Ms. Toad Apr 2022 #34
So much wrong here Doc Sportello Apr 2022 #41
"Because business and political leaders would prefer it that way." WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2022 #3
+1 Hugin Apr 2022 #5
Nailed it. nt BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #18
We have been below 200,000 new infections/day for the vast majority of the pandemic. Blues Heron Apr 2022 #6
Let's all buckle up and not become complacent. I'm sure that something worse is abqtommy Apr 2022 #7
If you're boosted, Covid is no longer a significant threat Johnny2X2X Apr 2022 #8
... until the next variant comes along. speak easy Apr 2022 #9
its a virus you just dont want even if you dont get hospitalized Blues Heron Apr 2022 #10
+1 n/t area51 Apr 2022 #11
It's not the flu Johnny2X2X Apr 2022 #12
This. SoonerPride Apr 2022 #13
It's almost like we have two different viruses Doc Sportello Apr 2022 #14
I cannot agree more Johnny2X2X Apr 2022 #16
Kids younger than 5 still aren't vaxxed. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2022 #19
Vaxxed people are 12-20 times less likely to get long Covid symptoms Johnny2X2X Apr 2022 #20
Thanks for the true numbers Doc Sportello Apr 2022 #22
Very good recap Johnny2X2X Apr 2022 #25
Also, other viruses can result in longer term post-infection viral injury greenjar_01 Apr 2022 #33
Excellent news! Time to get back to 2019 normal. beaglelover Apr 2022 #28
He had to walk that statement back: gldstwmn Apr 2022 #36
I would like to remind people that a Trump appointed judge stopped the mask mandate. Maggiemayhem Apr 2022 #42
We are not out of it as others pointed out above Meowmee Apr 2022 #43
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