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In reply to the discussion: Tired of the "Defund the Police" label [View all]Jedi Guy
(3,451 posts)28. A few questions, if I may.
We don't need mini-militaries.
Define "mini-militaries."
We don't need cops doing jobs for which they have zero training. We don't need to train cops to do jobs for which other people are better suited.
Regarding this, I assume you mean having cops respond to calls for people who are in a mental health crisis or similar. On the whole I'm inclined to agree, as cops don't have the kind of training required to deal with situations like those. However, if the person in question is behaving violently towards others (and particularly if they are armed), I feel like an officer should at the very least accompany the mental health professional, with the understanding that they are in charge and will direct the officer if/when they need assistance.
We don't need to pay cops more.
You get what you pay for and nothing more. If your argument is that police departments aren't attracting and retaining quality people, one way to change that is to offer a higher salary and be much more selective in those who are ultimately chosen. If you want high-quality people, you have to pay them accordingly. This is true of any field.
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When the christofascists cut police budgets or attack first responder retirement packages...
Thomas Hurt
May 2022
#2
Not even close. The average salary for a police officer in the US is $55k per year.
Jedi Guy
May 2022
#7
Oh, it regularly makes the rounds on the moderate left as a more reform-minded alternative to the
WhiskeyGrinder
May 2022
#27
+1, dems should use Scotts tax raises as a stoke even more than GZP used Defend policing
uponit7771
May 2022
#33
True. To the best of my knowledge, there are no national standards for anything.
Jedi Guy
May 2022
#24
Some keep bringing this up but i haven't heard one person say this or seen one sign anywhere in my
Samrob
May 2022
#14
+1, cause it was a 2020 GZP stoke now GZP is trying to get past J6 revelations they don't have much
uponit7771
May 2022
#34
not just Rethugs, a shedload of Indies, Latinos, and Asians as well. All 4 groups, on balance,
Celerity
May 2022
#19
Big difference with CRT though. Some Dems stupidly DID call for defunding the police with that
Celerity
May 2022
#20
That is obvious in face value. Rethugs try to weaponise and change meanings all the time.
Celerity
May 2022
#32
I'm a Democrat and I'd rather abolish the police. What we have now is unreformable.
WhiskeyGrinder
May 2022
#31
Presuming they are in fact abolished, who (if anyone) would enforce laws?
Dial H For Hero
May 2022
#40
Many of them (not enough, granted) are arrested, convicted, and imprisoned.
Dial H For Hero
May 2022
#48
I'm certain I'm not going to be able to give you an answer that works for you.
WhiskeyGrinder
May 2022
#50
I'm not looking for an answer that just "works for me", but a concrete proposal.
Dial H For Hero
May 2022
#52