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In reply to the discussion: Tim Wise: Of Broken Clocks, Presidential Candidates, and the Confusion of Certain White Liberals [View all]DonCoquixote
(13,954 posts)Only told people that giving support to Ron Paul would only help out Ron Paul,who, although he is good on some issues, is outright deadly on the rest.
Here is an analogy, you have kids, you have to work, you hire a babysitter. You find some things about this babysitter you really, genuinely like and admire.
You then find out said babysitter is a convicted child molester, and has also been convicted for the making of kiddie porn.
Now, it would not matter if said babysitter is really, really affordable, punctual, trained in first aid and makes your children Spaghetti exactly the way they want it. You would not want someone who enjoys raping kids to have access to children. You really wouldnot want someone that makes MONEY off of Kiddie Porn, because he might give your children the wrong kind of film career.
Now, when you throw the fool out of your house, along come some people who say "But the kids like him so, so much more than that Barry guy you hired before him." Now, would you not say W-T-F?
Now is Ron the true progressives equivalent of the charming paedophile that might be plesant at tea, but must never be allowed to get any support?
He wants to completely get rid of the EPA, The Department of the Interior, and the Department of Education. If I need to explain why that is a horror, your credentials as a liberal get called into question.
He wants to get rid of the Civil Rights act. Again, this should be a self-evident truth.
He wants to get rid of Minium Wage.
It's one thing (albeit a bad, indefensible, inexcusable thing) to be weak on issues like Gay or Abortion Rights. If we did not have a Democratic Party that was pulled to the right by Saints Bill and Hill, these rights would be as safe as if they were in Fort Knox. However, Ron Paul wants to go above and beyond, because if he gets what he wants, we are ALL screwed, every man woman and child of every creed, color, and gender. And the point of the OP which no one looks in the eyes is this, when you support Ron Paul, you support those people he is also trying to help. He is not going to sit down and say "OK, I will make Weed free and cut off every cent to Israel, but I will forget that thing about getting rid of the EPA."
And no,this is not about making Obama a saint, or denying that we need to put pressure on him 24-7. However, OWS will be a better vehicle for that, because there is no risk of accidentally making the election close enough for the GOP to take. I have said it before and again, we the whole "protest vote" trick in 2000 and 2004, and it only helped ensure we got 8 years of W. and 8 more years for the media to turn the masses brains to mush. I am saying this, the enemy of your enemy is not your friend. We justly rail on the way Uncle Sam supprts people who are evil, because they say some thing we like to hear. Are we going to feed Ron Paul the way we fed that young killer of Soviets, Osama Ben Ladin?