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JoePhilly

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24. Yup ... and if I recall ...
Fri Jan 13, 2012, 10:15 PM
Jan 2012

there was an earlier version of the same bill which had somewhat less support, but still more than 50, and maybe close to 60 votes ... and some "changes" were made which put it past the veto threshold.

At that time, the parties had yet to reach the point where nothing passed without 60 cloture votes ... and that if one side had the votes, that was respected as "the will of the people" ... and filibusters and vetoes were reserved for "extreme" situations.

The GOP has ensured that going forward, you better have 60 votes in the Senate, and you may need 2/3rds if the President is from the GOP with a Dem Senate.

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I think I'll skip it izquierdista Jan 2012 #1
How much say did bubba have ? surfdog Jan 2012 #2
He had a lot of say izquierdista Jan 2012 #4
From what I know ... JoePhilly Jan 2012 #6
The senate vote was 90-8 surfdog Jan 2012 #15
Yup ... and if I recall ... JoePhilly Jan 2012 #24
It was written by three GOP'ers and was veto proof. Sirveri Jan 2012 #17
True perhaps, but one can still veto things on principle (nt) The Straight Story Jan 2012 #20
And bill would have looked very weak surfdog Jan 2012 #21
I'd rather look weak to those who were weak, than actually be weak (nt) The Straight Story Jan 2012 #23
Actually, that article is BULL SHIT, and I'll explain why. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #3
+1 redqueen Jan 2012 #5
In one version of this that I read a while ago ... JoePhilly Jan 2012 #7
Excellent Post. Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #8
And may I say .. Great ADDITION to my post ... !!! JoePhilly Jan 2012 #9
Thanks to you too. Cameron27 Jan 2012 #11
was he distracted or Whisp Jan 2012 #12
You claim that... surfdog Jan 2012 #14
He didn't have to sign anything, but it would have passed anyways. Sirveri Jan 2012 #18
Nearly every democrat voted for the bill surfdog Jan 2012 #19
Interesting, thanks. Cameron27 Jan 2012 #10
NP ... and I understand the situation you describe ... JoePhilly Jan 2012 #25
That is a core conflict. Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #26
An oldy but a goodie, Krugman on NAFTA: joshcryer Jan 2012 #28
+2 n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2012 #13
Here's an interesting clip from TYT on this. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #16
Although I agree that repeal of Glass-Steagal NashvilleLefty Jan 2012 #22
Love this thread Cameron27 Jan 2012 #27
In addition to Gramm-Bliley-Leech, the Clinton administration mmonk Jan 2012 #29
meh mdmc Jan 2012 #30
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