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Cuthbert Allgood

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130. The numbers don't support you
Tue May 3, 2022, 10:21 AM
May 2022

The highest number is 12% of Sanders voters voted for Trump. 24% of Clinton supporters voted for McCain. Link.

Sanders did a better job of getting his supporters to Clinton than Clinton did getting her supporters to Obama.

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This thread will not go well. yardwork May 2022 #1
People are against ending the filibuster? Emile May 2022 #4
No... glad to see Bernie taking the lead on this. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #44
You know I love you...but Bernie should not take the lead period. And to call for a vote we Demsrule86 May 2022 #53
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EXACTLY!! (Bernie knows this.) InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #88
What does Rebl2 May 2022 #89
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It is meaningless really...we don't have the votes. Let's concentrate on electing Democrats. Demsrule86 May 2022 #173
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It makes us look weak. And the GOP never succeeded now did they? We need to concentrate Demsrule86 May 2022 #172
"but Bernie should not take the lead period"?? notinkansas May 2022 #126
No, He should not. And certainly calling for it now when we don't have the votes is Demsrule86 May 2022 #171
Yes, yes we are inthewind21 May 2022 #226
Well, I certainly reject that stance. notinkansas May 2022 #235
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Chuck Schumer says he is going to bring it to a vote. gldstwmn May 2022 #231
BRAVOOOOO!!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #234
After how useful he was in 2016, waiting till September to do any campaigning, pnwmom May 2022 #115
End of Sept I believe, then only giving his same ole stump speech. LizBeth May 2022 #159
I do not fee grateful today either. Demsrule86 May 2022 #174
Bernie is a strong feminist 867-5309. May 2022 #204
MLK/Steiman wrapped in one. Yes, we know. He campaigned on it and we called him on it. LizBeth May 2022 #209
The kind of strong feminist who didn't bother campaigning for the first female candidate pnwmom May 2022 #216
Hillary lost among white women 867-5309. May 2022 #223
Defections among Sanders and Stein voters were the only defections that affected the outcome. pnwmom May 2022 #224
My point being you won't ever hold 100%. But Hillary held pretty well. 867-5309. May 2022 #225
A half dozen last minute campaign appearances didn't help enough. And the primary pnwmom May 2022 #227
In fact Bernie is a HUGE asset...& that's why u shudnt counti out if Joe decides not to run in 2024. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #250
Asking for a vote that we will surely lose is not helpful. It just makes me more angry with him. Demsrule86 May 2022 #56
So your opinion is we'll lose. The fact is we don't know that until we try. Emile May 2022 #80
THANK YOU!! YES!! Bernie will fight tooth and nail... why he commands respect. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #92
He only campaigned 6 times for her in 2016, so not exactly tooth and nail. pnwmom May 2022 #119
Let's face it, if Hillary had run unopposed. She would be sitting in the White House.... Demsrule86 May 2022 #176
Post removed Post removed May 2022 #183
Nope, it was made all about Hillary during the primary.. Demsrule86 May 2022 #186
And I don't care if Hillary made Attila the Hun VP...with the courts at stake all Democrats Demsrule86 May 2022 #191
Manchin has already said he won't vote for it...so what is the point? Demsrule86 May 2022 #175
Not fighting is political suicide! Emile May 2022 #221
Touche again Emile!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #251
Of course we have to fight, but we have to fight smart...until we elect more Demcrats... Demsrule86 May 2022 #283
Let's get Murkowski, Collins and Capito to put their money where their mouth is. gldstwmn May 2022 #233
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On this issue there won't be a problem. The problem will be two Senators who refuse to get rid JohnSJ May 2022 #9
Are you sure that Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski will vote no? gab13by13 May 2022 #14
On the filibuster I am pretty sure they will vote to keep it JohnSJ May 2022 #15
So we do nothing? Emile May 2022 #23
We rally the base and women to vote in the midterms...and we win enough seats to fix this. Demsrule86 May 2022 #179
Of course they will. Demsrule86 May 2022 #48
They just did Noahv May 2022 #288
welcome to DU gopiscrap May 2022 #302
That is exactly right. Demsrule86 May 2022 #188
Nor should it. W_HAMILTON May 2022 #131
yep...that is what I think too. Demsrule86 May 2022 #182
Gee, ya think? DFW May 2022 #201
Obvious, I know. yardwork May 2022 #211
Agreed. iemanja May 2022 #2
And you get to 50 how, exactly? bucolic_frolic May 2022 #3
By taking a vote! Emile May 2022 #6
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There is no point in trying if we don't have the votes. Failing makes us look weak. We Demsrule86 May 2022 #37
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The GOP got nothing but judges and a reconciliation tax bill. The minority gets nothing and Demsrule86 May 2022 #184
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which was done in reconciliation just like Infrastructure and they had a bigger majority in Demsrule86 May 2022 #258
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So we can only try to do productive things every two years? Doremus May 2022 #137
How about we concentrate on winning elecitions even midterms and see just what we can get Demsrule86 May 2022 #192
A vote for do nothing. Voltaire2 May 2022 #10
Sometimes there is nothing you can do. This was set up in 2016...when some on our side Demsrule86 May 2022 #45
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Exactly. Voltaire2 May 2022 #222
Exactly Tumbulu May 2022 #95
We win the midterm and then we vote. Demsrule86 May 2022 #193
I hear ya... will never understand that kinda defeatist attitude. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #252
With Republican women iemanja May 2022 #114
That is ridiculous. I do not believe either Collins or Murkawski will vote for an Abortion rights Demsrule86 May 2022 #194
Putting those against abortion access on the record. aocommunalpunch May 2022 #150
I likes your attitude!! /nt bucolic_frolic May 2022 #154
Everyone knows Republicans are against abortion...and making our folks take such a vote in the Demsrule86 May 2022 #195
Exactly. Hold them accountable. Either walk the talk or face the consequences. gldstwmn May 2022 #236
DING!! DING!! DING!! We hava winna!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #253
Why insult Bernie on this? He should be applauded... apparently Chuck Schumer agrees with Bernie!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #238
Exactly Emile May 2022 #247
Manchin has been anti-abortion (pro-life) forever. Calista241 May 2022 #8
Collins and Murkowski will cancel him out! Emile May 2022 #11
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Yeah right Joenobody May 2022 #29
Collins and Murkowski won't help us; they will say that now Congress must do something. The Demsrule86 May 2022 #35
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It should be voted on, FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #117
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she wasted city tax money having it washed off FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #300
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How you ask inthewind21 May 2022 #228
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Well, that didn't age well Noahv May 2022 #290
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"insulting" Noahv May 2022 #296
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Murkowski is up for re-election in November. Calista241 May 2022 #39
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They could easily vote to support the legislation, and vote against the rule change. Calista241 May 2022 #58
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That didn't age well Noahv May 2022 #298
Alaska has codified the right to abortion obamanut2012 May 2022 #163
How is Susan Collins pro-choice? BradAllison May 2022 #112
She says she is. I know her voting record on SC Justices says different. Emile May 2022 #121
She's gonna make it about the fillibuster BradAllison May 2022 #125
Who cares! We are fighting back and that's what is expected Emile May 2022 #129
☝️☝️☝️ THIS!!!! ☝️☝️☝️ InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #248
Put her on record inthewind21 May 2022 #229
They won't vote for us...they wil annnounce that SCOTUS has spoken period...but it never gets Demsrule86 May 2022 #196
Casey (D-PA) would also be against a national abortion law Polybius May 2022 #198
Shelley Moore Capito is also supposedly pro choice. gldstwmn May 2022 #237
Breaking news. They didn't Noahv May 2022 #289
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+1 jalan48 May 2022 #20
He is? Just_Vote_Dem May 2022 #16
Then someone skilled needs to look into his past. hamsterjill May 2022 #17
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If that happened, it would be a crime. Straight up blackmail and extortion. Calista241 May 2022 #41
It's not a crime if it's true. hamsterjill May 2022 #77
It is still a crime to blackmail someone. marie999 May 2022 #151
Gray area. hamsterjill May 2022 #161
Actually inthewind21 May 2022 #230
Lets get real...that is never going to happen. Demsrule86 May 2022 #197
Hear hear!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #254
What happened in 2016 is over, gab13by13 May 2022 #18
I agree Just_Vote_Dem May 2022 #19
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The hell it is. W_HAMILTON May 2022 #136
No it is not over. I see the same sort of crap today...and we can't get rid of the filibuster thus Demsrule86 May 2022 #199
Chuck Schumer IS fighting back, along with Bernie, Elizabeth & others. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #255
Always there grandstanding for things he knows cannot happen. CrackityJones75 May 2022 #24
And by all means hold a vote. CrackityJones75 May 2022 #25
Another vote for do nothing because it's Bernie? Emile May 2022 #27
A vote at this point would achieve nothing. We need more Democrats and Sen. Sander must Demsrule86 May 2022 #33
Oh? You'll have to quote me. CrackityJones75 May 2022 #103
So would you support this if someone other than Bernie suggested it? Emile May 2022 #106
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Explain to me how we get a vote...we can't get rid of the filubuster...so how is a vote possible. Demsrule86 May 2022 #200
Explain to me why it's bad to fight for something Emile May 2022 #220
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2022 #26
Ending the filibuster would do much more harm than good. The Grand Illuminist May 2022 #28
No it wouldn't. Nothing will ever get done with the filibuster. And folks hate Congress Demsrule86 May 2022 #32
You got to look at this from another prospective. The Grand Illuminist May 2022 #43
exactly MamaCuatro May 2022 #122
They will likely do that anyway. The idea that you trust the GOP not to end the filibuster is Demsrule86 May 2022 #202
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We can't do anything with the filibuster it must go. But it can't until we have more Demsrule86 May 2022 #62
We should do everything we can. But the reality is we don't have the votes to end the filibuster. Demsrule86 May 2022 #64
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That's what disgusts me, FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #120
You said it!! It's time for the commendation to stop & the fighting to start!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #256
What did the Gop get really? Judges that our some on our side deemed not important enough Demsrule86 May 2022 #205
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All I will say if we show loyalty and stop playing footsie Demsrule86 May 2022 #259
+1 betsuni May 2022 #263
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I actually wasn't accusing you of not voting for Hillary Clinton...I assume everyone here Demsrule86 May 2022 #281
I just want to clear. Those that voted for anyone other than Hillary Clinton in the General Demsrule86 May 2022 #282
We would be smarter to codify the filibuster Joenobody May 2022 #36
You might have something. AleksS May 2022 #69
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I'm not sure why we are always in reactive mode jimfields33 May 2022 #79
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we are always in reactive mode because we have (due to the US first past the post single member Celerity May 2022 #287
What do you mean by "codify"? BumRushDaShow May 2022 #127
Yet, we have laws Joenobody May 2022 #178
There is a "separation of powers" BumRushDaShow May 2022 #219
No, it isnt. Joenobody May 2022 #261
What? BumRushDaShow May 2022 #262
That is not possible and without the filibuster the voters decide...they have a reason to vote. Demsrule86 May 2022 #207
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K&R, let Americans see who standing against abortion rights uponit7771 May 2022 #30
In order to do this we need to elect more Democrats. And Senator Sanders is not the Demsrule86 May 2022 #31
So do nothing until we elect more democrats because it's Bernie? Emile May 2022 #34
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I think it was, FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #133
this... myohmy2 May 2022 #38
"It is not good enough to say 'I'm a woman, vote for me!" betsuni May 2022 #40
"Don't threaten me with the Supreme Court." comradebillyboy May 2022 #67
+1 LizBeth May 2022 #97
+1. I will never forget. Or forgive. LizBeth May 2022 #96
Nor will I. Demsrule86 May 2022 #208
I guarantee this, take it to the bank, gab13by13 May 2022 #42
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Oh please, one race at a time. I agree they will abolish the filibuster. Demsrule86 May 2022 #210
Without a doubt. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #266
A vote MUST be taken in the Senate so that all (R)s must defend their voting record! JT45242 May 2022 #47
+1 Spot On! Emile May 2022 #50
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None of what you want can happen with the current number of Democrats...our only choice is to Demsrule86 May 2022 #212
not saying they pass -- saying people will be on the record JT45242 May 2022 #232
Can someone explain to me how "codifying Roe v. Wade" accomplishes anything... ECL213 May 2022 #52
Roe v Wade had circuitous logic based on 'right to privacy', a federal law would supercede state law JT45242 May 2022 #61
Thanks. ECL213 May 2022 #124
I don't think there are constitutional issues...and in addition to codifying Roe...we need to Demsrule86 May 2022 #213
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+100000000000000000 betsuni May 2022 #59
Sad but true. comradebillyboy May 2022 #70
False. He campaigned hard for Clinton. Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #86
Barely and late, certainly not hard. LizBeth May 2022 #100
That's just not the truth. And Sanders voters turned out for Clinton Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #105
Sanders spent months mouthy off the damaging talking points the Republicans picked LizBeth May 2022 #109
I supported Sanders and voted for Hillary. We need to unite, not divide! Emile May 2022 #113
Never forgive, never forget. Tell that to those girls and women struggling to LizBeth May 2022 #116
We are on the same side, aren't we? Emile May 2022 #123
Democrats generally are. What we saw in that campaign, not at all and Sanders LizBeth May 2022 #128
I don't see this fighting the 2016 election as being helpful. Hillary won Emile May 2022 #132
Of course you do not see the problem with Sanders contaminating HRC the way NO LizBeth May 2022 #135
It seems we're only on the same side FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #139
The numbers don't support you Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #130
Enough to swing states like Michigan and only people that then voted Trump. LizBeth May 2022 #141
This is just a ridiculous game Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #143
You are right, it is not on Democrats. LizBeth May 2022 #144
Just say it then Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #147
I have made clear the damage done to HRC. LizBeth May 2022 #149
He told women, out loud, that our concerns with SC were not the "important" issues. LizBeth May 2022 #142
But Sanders supporters voted for Clinton. Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #145
Isn't it ironic you can talk about HRC (the woman) in 2008, but not Sanders (the man) in 2016 LizBeth May 2022 #162
I'm comparing the two. You are saying that Sanders didn't work enough for Clinton. Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #164
6 appearances starting late in Sept with his stump speech. NO! He did not work hard. LizBeth May 2022 #166
And yet over 88% of his supporters voted for Clinton. Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #168
The man told us in EVERY speech one way or another women, gays, POC wasn't the IMPORTANT issue. LizBeth May 2022 #169
Now you are just misstating his position, so we're probably done. Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #170
He was/is ALL about his own demographics and a chip on his shoulders because he did not LizBeth May 2022 #177
Still waiting for the quotation where he says white middle class males are the most picked on group. Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #181
It is in every speech and was pointed out every time he said it. LizBeth May 2022 #185
Shouldn't be hard for you to find one, then. Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #187
Queue the crickets!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #269
Yes agreed, but that wud mean the Bernie bashing would have to stop!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #267
He said Hillary was corrupt and beholden to Wall Street and corporations. betsuni May 2022 #268
and Hillary never said anything bad about Bernie! Why do Emile May 2022 #270
What did Hillary say about Bernie? betsuni May 2022 #271
Stop it! Emile May 2022 #272
Stop what, the truth? betsuni May 2022 #273
Stop fighting the 2016 primary! Emile May 2022 #274
No, populism is still a threat. Left-wing or right-wing. betsuni May 2022 #276
I didn't like her Wall Street connections. And the optics of it were bad. Still voted for her. Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #275
She was a senator from New York. Where Wall Street is. betsuni May 2022 #277
I can like or not like whatever I want, really. But my point is that even not liking it Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #278
I never said that. betsuni May 2022 #279
Thank you!!! notinkansas May 2022 #148
Every one of his speeches, one way or another, we were told women issues are NOT the LizBeth May 2022 #155
Bull-fucking-shit. W_HAMILTON May 2022 #138
Well, that makes reality different than it actually was, then. Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #140
He didn't campaign hard for her. W_HAMILTON May 2022 #156
+1 LizBeth May 2022 #157
So how do you dismiss Sanders voters voting for Biden in high numbers? Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #160
What you describe still goes on. One here even acknowledges Nixie May 2022 #284
+1 betsuni May 2022 #286
+1 betsuni May 2022 #285
Hmmm we can agree to disagree. After all it wasn't his job to win his voters over to Hillary... Demsrule86 May 2022 #214
Divisive group attacks is not helpful. We need to unite and fight like hell! Emile May 2022 #91
+1 LizBeth May 2022 #99
I will take Bernie more seriously when he shows (or creates) a realistic path Beastly Boy May 2022 #65
"Sanders (D-VT)"?? SouthBayDem May 2022 #66
If only seta1950 May 2022 #68
+1 betsuni May 2022 #74
He did. Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #87
This is not refighting 2016. Beastly Boy May 2022 #93
You always so judgemental? Emile May 2022 #152
Not always. Only when the connection between cause and effect is inescapable. Beastly Boy May 2022 #165
+1 LizBeth May 2022 #167
+1 LizBeth May 2022 #158
+1 LizBeth May 2022 #102
As long as the filibuster is in place, codifying Roe will never happen dlk May 2022 #73
How many times did the fascists vote to cancel Obama care? 70x? RicROC May 2022 #75
Exactly right. FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #134
They were never able to cancel the ACA...so what is the point? Demsrule86 May 2022 #218
BOOOOOOOMMMMM!!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #265
federal law would neuter state laws in the meantime but likely be overturned by future SC ruling AlexSFCA May 2022 #76
Kick BlueWavePsych May 2022 #82
+1000 llmart May 2022 #104
Hey Bernie, why don't YOU convince Manchin and Sinema... Novara May 2022 #84
Yep! nt Tumbulu May 2022 #98
Here's how important it was to Sanders in 2016: comradebillyboy May 2022 #108
Yeah, he needs to STFU Novara May 2022 #110
He was telling women to sit down and shut up all over that campaign. LizBeth May 2022 #118
I remember iemanja May 2022 #153
There is a window of opportunity to do so... malthaussen May 2022 #94
+1 !!! TeamProg May 2022 #101
Fine. But there shouldn't even be a need in the first place for a law in order wiggs May 2022 #111
This has been something Democrats have talked about, tried to do but just not with the urgency as Nanjeanne May 2022 #146
It's hard to think of a national leader on the left who has been more dismissive of abortion rights BlueCheeseAgain May 2022 #180
You posted it, want to give us examples? Emile May 2022 #190
Sure. BlueCheeseAgain May 2022 #257
Dennis Kucinich n/t Polybius May 2022 #203
Then, Bernie, convince your pals to end the filibuster NOW SoonerPride May 2022 #189
We have a President that said he can get things through the Senate Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #215
Manchin and Sinema rebuffed Biden. SoonerPride May 2022 #217
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2022 #206
K&R. Dem leadership, Bernie and Schumer agree on this Arazi May 2022 #245
Great news! Emile May 2022 #246
Wise move for Schumer to support Bernie and others on this!! My hat's off to him!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #249
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Don't lecture me, Bernie Just_Vote_Dem May 2022 #293
What's so funny? Emile May 2022 #295
People who complain about being "lectured" Just_Vote_Dem May 2022 #297
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