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wnylib

(26,383 posts)
33. How do you know what "most women and girls"
Tue May 3, 2022, 08:02 PM
May 2022

will want to do if forced to give birth? Have you ever conceived a child from rape? Had a miscarriage? Been "accused" of using birth control when you didn't get pregnant soon enough after marriage? Had to go out of town for a D & C after a miscarriage because a local religious hospital would not allow it?

You say that you are knowledgeable on the "Baby Scoop Era." Is that knowledge from books, films, songs, and websites? You demonstrated an inability to comprehend the emotional state of a young person forced to bear and give up the child fathered by a rapist when you said that you suspected my relative was "deeply wounded" by the separation from her child no matter how it was conceived. Really? Do you think that being raped had nothing to do with how she felt? Do you think that she did not have the rape burned into her every second of the 9 months she carried that child? Do you think that she really wanted to raise that child herself as a permanent reminder of the trauma that created it?

I can tell you how she felt because she confided in me. First, she did not feel prepared to raise any child. Second, she could not bear the thought of looking at a child that carried half of its genes from its rapist father. She feared that it would physically resemble him and haunt her for the child's lifetime. She feared that she would treat the child badly, maybe even abuse it because of the circumstances of its conception. So she decided that it was best for the child's sake to have someone else adopt and raise it.

Being separated from the child after its birth was the least of her worries. The rape itself troubled her the most. It was so traumatic and brutal that she blocked out parts of it, only to have flashbacks later. During her pregnancy the focus was so much on the fetal development that she did not heal psychologically from the rape itself.

When the flashbacks came, and she could not c0ntrol or stop them, she chose death as her escape.

Tell me again how knowledgeable you are about the Scoop Baby Era.

Remember Madonna's song, "Papa Don't Preach"? There was a period of backlash against abortion when young women and teens were encouraged to have their babies and keep them as a statement about motherhood vs. abortion. Some young teens deliberately got pregnant. Groups in schools made pacts with each other to do it.

When abortion (and then contraception) becomes criminal, in the culture of Evangelicals forcing their views, pregnancies among unmarried girls and women will again be treated as shameful. They will be told, as they were in the pre Roe period, that they are not fit to raise a child and should give it up. Under such social pressure many will feel pushed to do it.



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"Burn it all down"! they screeched Budi May 2022 #1
They think the "burning down" slightlv May 2022 #6
They don't care. They are now all celebrity multi-millionares. Budi May 2022 #7
How long before they start taking babies away from unfit (as they deem) mothers? NightWatcher May 2022 #2
Texas has already set the stage. Lonestarblue May 2022 #5
Christo-Fascists. I think you are correct. They are crazy and are fomenting violence. Evolve Dammit May 2022 #51
Excellent point, and one that is often understated. StevieM May 2022 #14
Are you unfit if your child has a birth defect or Delmette2.0 May 2022 #16
Are you unfit if your child has a birth defect or Delmette2.0 May 2022 #17
Republicans believe that you are unfit if you are unmarried. (eom) StevieM May 2022 #18
Or a Democrat. dchill May 2022 #35
Evangelicals will not use infertility wnylib May 2022 #20
Most of the babies will not be adopted, they will be kept and raised. StevieM May 2022 #21
Including rape and incest victims wnylib May 2022 #25
Just to be clear, I was in no way suggesting that this ruling is anything but a horrible event. StevieM May 2022 #26
I don't now how old you are, but wnylib May 2022 #29
I am very knowledgeable about the Baby Scoop Era. StevieM May 2022 #30
How do you know what "most women and girls" wnylib May 2022 #33
I fully agree that it is terrible to force a woman to carry her rapist's baby. StevieM May 2022 #39
All of these things have happened in my lifetime. Irish_Dem May 2022 #3
You forgot about the selling of babies FakeNoose May 2022 #11
I know, I debated posting that sordid piece of reality. Irish_Dem May 2022 #15
First wife NHvet May 2022 #24
Yes that is how it happened back then. Selling babies was a lucrative business. Irish_Dem May 2022 #27
Or force you to get a vaccination C_U_L8R May 2022 #4
"insurrectionist castrations" Duppers May 2022 #8
Who would want to touch their stinky old nads? Meadowoak May 2022 #9
I'll take one for the team. LuckyCharms May 2022 #31
Do it in a dirty, back-alley room. keithbvadu2 May 2022 #54
Yeah, are they going to force pregnant women to get vaccinated? Farmer-Rick May 2022 #52
Just call it The Open Season on Women Act. calimary May 2022 #10
I loved what Roe v Wade did but I didn't appreciate the reasoning Warpy May 2022 #12
+++++++++1000000%. nt in2herbs May 2022 #13
+1 progressoid May 2022 #37
Private healthcare decisions between dr. and patient Alice Kramden May 2022 #19
I've been saying this for decades: if they can force you to give Ilsa May 2022 #22
Congressman Raskin is a constitutional law scholar and he is correct on this LetMyPeopleVote May 2022 #23
Arrest for endangering a fetus, force feeding, dangerous activities nolabear May 2022 #28
Under his eye. n/t shanti May 2022 #38
Raskin is right, unfortunately dlk May 2022 #32
What happened to the UNITED STATES? The incessant regressionism is akin to refighting the Civil War. live love laugh May 2022 #34
We're clearly being torn apart shanti May 2022 #42
The American civil war never ended. generalbetrayus May 2022 #56
K and R Thanks for Posting .. Stuart G May 2022 #36
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Excellent rant! Plus a gazillion. love_katz May 2022 #57
Thanks jfz9580m May 2022 #58
Twitter reply: Rhiannon12866 May 2022 #41
Eugenics '23! No freedom for me! /nt bucolic_frolic May 2022 #43
They would do it, too. Joinfortmill May 2022 #44
Mr. Raskin, as a fellow Democrat, I have to remind you that you're the constitutionalist. ancianita May 2022 #45
"Have the House and Senate ENUMERATE the rights that the Constitution doesn't." BumRushDaShow May 2022 #48
Maybe not. They still have women and girls and grandkids in their lives. So it's real for them, too. ancianita May 2022 #50
Sadly BumRushDaShow May 2022 #53
Thank you. ancianita May 2022 #59
"Virginia sterilized thousands in the last century" BumRushDaShow May 2022 #46
Gotta get more women on the bench and in prosecutors offices. This is legalized malevolence. ancianita May 2022 #47
It's happening BumRushDaShow May 2022 #49
A gov't powerful enough to compel you / deny you... keithbvadu2 May 2022 #55
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