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BumRushDaShow

(165,279 posts)
262. What?
Wed May 4, 2022, 05:01 AM
May 2022

What I included was the portion of the Constitution that DIRECTS what Congress is expected "to do" related to what is a specific special function. Each chamber then sets up it's own rules for how to carry that out. The law that you are referring to, which is one the RW loons point to, is explicitly dealing with that "special function" of Presidential elections, and in that case attempted to resolve a circumstance of a "contested election".

You have similar "special functions" noted in the Constitution where the 2 chambers (and even the 3 branches) interact in a joint fashion, for example -

  • Impeachment (where you later had "Former Presidents Act" that not only provides a pension for former Presidents, but explicitly forbids such for those "removed from office" (impeached, convicted, and removed))

  • State of the Union

  • Declaration of War (where you later had he "War Powers Resolution" that attempted to reassert the role of Congress within the context of a President acting as the Article II Sect. 2 "Commander in Chief" with a requirement that the Executive notify Congress within 60 days of initiation of hostilities so Congress can then begin debate on what we have come to know as an "Authorization of Use of Force" )

    This "electors" procedure and "War Powers" procedure were "legislation" that addresses ancillary situations related to that "special function".

    Again, you are trying to compare special Constitutionally-designated powers/functions with the routine procedures that each chamber decides on during their sessions.

    The most recent case in point was the nonsense clown show where a bunch of GOP members of the House sued in an attempt to contest the amendment to the House Rules in court. Their beef being regarding the penalties enacted against them for either refusing to wear a mask in the House chamber and/or refusing to go through security, and in the former case, they argued the amended Rule was "unconstitutional" (a violation of the First Amendment) and the courts threw out the suit. Why? Because each chamber can make its own Rules (and these Rules are voted on by the chamber itself).

    Most of the rest of the odd situations were addressed by Constitutional Amendment.


    https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-resolution/8/text
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    This thread will not go well. yardwork May 2022 #1
    People are against ending the filibuster? Emile May 2022 #4
    No... glad to see Bernie taking the lead on this. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #44
    You know I love you...but Bernie should not take the lead period. And to call for a vote we Demsrule86 May 2022 #53
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    EXACTLY!! (Bernie knows this.) InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #88
    What does Rebl2 May 2022 #89
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    It is meaningless really...we don't have the votes. Let's concentrate on electing Democrats. Demsrule86 May 2022 #173
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    It makes us look weak. And the GOP never succeeded now did they? We need to concentrate Demsrule86 May 2022 #172
    "but Bernie should not take the lead period"?? notinkansas May 2022 #126
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    Well, I certainly reject that stance. notinkansas May 2022 #235
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    Chuck Schumer says he is going to bring it to a vote. gldstwmn May 2022 #231
    BRAVOOOOO!!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #234
    After how useful he was in 2016, waiting till September to do any campaigning, pnwmom May 2022 #115
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    I do not fee grateful today either. Demsrule86 May 2022 #174
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    The kind of strong feminist who didn't bother campaigning for the first female candidate pnwmom May 2022 #216
    Hillary lost among white women 867-5309. May 2022 #223
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    A half dozen last minute campaign appearances didn't help enough. And the primary pnwmom May 2022 #227
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    Asking for a vote that we will surely lose is not helpful. It just makes me more angry with him. Demsrule86 May 2022 #56
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    By taking a vote! Emile May 2022 #6
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    Exactly Tumbulu May 2022 #95
    We win the midterm and then we vote. Demsrule86 May 2022 #193
    I hear ya... will never understand that kinda defeatist attitude. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #252
    With Republican women iemanja May 2022 #114
    That is ridiculous. I do not believe either Collins or Murkawski will vote for an Abortion rights Demsrule86 May 2022 #194
    Putting those against abortion access on the record. aocommunalpunch May 2022 #150
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    DING!! DING!! DING!! We hava winna!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #253
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    Exactly Emile May 2022 #247
    Manchin has been anti-abortion (pro-life) forever. Calista241 May 2022 #8
    Collins and Murkowski will cancel him out! Emile May 2022 #11
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    "insulting" Noahv May 2022 #296
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    Murkowski is up for re-election in November. Calista241 May 2022 #39
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    That didn't age well Noahv May 2022 #298
    Alaska has codified the right to abortion obamanut2012 May 2022 #163
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    ☝️☝️☝️ THIS!!!! ☝️☝️☝️ InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #248
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    Breaking news. They didn't Noahv May 2022 #289
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    Hear hear!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #254
    What happened in 2016 is over, gab13by13 May 2022 #18
    I agree Just_Vote_Dem May 2022 #19
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    The hell it is. W_HAMILTON May 2022 #136
    No it is not over. I see the same sort of crap today...and we can't get rid of the filibuster thus Demsrule86 May 2022 #199
    Chuck Schumer IS fighting back, along with Bernie, Elizabeth & others. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #255
    Always there grandstanding for things he knows cannot happen. CrackityJones75 May 2022 #24
    And by all means hold a vote. CrackityJones75 May 2022 #25
    Another vote for do nothing because it's Bernie? Emile May 2022 #27
    A vote at this point would achieve nothing. We need more Democrats and Sen. Sander must Demsrule86 May 2022 #33
    Oh? You'll have to quote me. CrackityJones75 May 2022 #103
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    Explain to me how we get a vote...we can't get rid of the filubuster...so how is a vote possible. Demsrule86 May 2022 #200
    Explain to me why it's bad to fight for something Emile May 2022 #220
    Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2022 #26
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    You got to look at this from another prospective. The Grand Illuminist May 2022 #43
    exactly MamaCuatro May 2022 #122
    They will likely do that anyway. The idea that you trust the GOP not to end the filibuster is Demsrule86 May 2022 #202
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    We can't do anything with the filibuster it must go. But it can't until we have more Demsrule86 May 2022 #62
    We should do everything we can. But the reality is we don't have the votes to end the filibuster. Demsrule86 May 2022 #64
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    That's what disgusts me, FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #120
    You said it!! It's time for the commendation to stop & the fighting to start!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #256
    What did the Gop get really? Judges that our some on our side deemed not important enough Demsrule86 May 2022 #205
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    All I will say if we show loyalty and stop playing footsie Demsrule86 May 2022 #259
    +1 betsuni May 2022 #263
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    I actually wasn't accusing you of not voting for Hillary Clinton...I assume everyone here Demsrule86 May 2022 #281
    I just want to clear. Those that voted for anyone other than Hillary Clinton in the General Demsrule86 May 2022 #282
    We would be smarter to codify the filibuster Joenobody May 2022 #36
    You might have something. AleksS May 2022 #69
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    I'm not sure why we are always in reactive mode jimfields33 May 2022 #79
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    we are always in reactive mode because we have (due to the US first past the post single member Celerity May 2022 #287
    What do you mean by "codify"? BumRushDaShow May 2022 #127
    Yet, we have laws Joenobody May 2022 #178
    There is a "separation of powers" BumRushDaShow May 2022 #219
    No, it isnt. Joenobody May 2022 #261
    What? BumRushDaShow May 2022 #262
    That is not possible and without the filibuster the voters decide...they have a reason to vote. Demsrule86 May 2022 #207
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    K&R, let Americans see who standing against abortion rights uponit7771 May 2022 #30
    In order to do this we need to elect more Democrats. And Senator Sanders is not the Demsrule86 May 2022 #31
    So do nothing until we elect more democrats because it's Bernie? Emile May 2022 #34
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    I think it was, FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #133
    this... myohmy2 May 2022 #38
    "It is not good enough to say 'I'm a woman, vote for me!" betsuni May 2022 #40
    "Don't threaten me with the Supreme Court." comradebillyboy May 2022 #67
    +1 LizBeth May 2022 #97
    +1. I will never forget. Or forgive. LizBeth May 2022 #96
    Nor will I. Demsrule86 May 2022 #208
    I guarantee this, take it to the bank, gab13by13 May 2022 #42
    This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2022 #63
    Oh please, one race at a time. I agree they will abolish the filibuster. Demsrule86 May 2022 #210
    Without a doubt. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #266
    A vote MUST be taken in the Senate so that all (R)s must defend their voting record! JT45242 May 2022 #47
    +1 Spot On! Emile May 2022 #50
    This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2022 #81
    None of what you want can happen with the current number of Democrats...our only choice is to Demsrule86 May 2022 #212
    not saying they pass -- saying people will be on the record JT45242 May 2022 #232
    Can someone explain to me how "codifying Roe v. Wade" accomplishes anything... ECL213 May 2022 #52
    Roe v Wade had circuitous logic based on 'right to privacy', a federal law would supercede state law JT45242 May 2022 #61
    Thanks. ECL213 May 2022 #124
    I don't think there are constitutional issues...and in addition to codifying Roe...we need to Demsrule86 May 2022 #213
    Post removed Post removed May 2022 #55
    +100000000000000000 betsuni May 2022 #59
    Sad but true. comradebillyboy May 2022 #70
    False. He campaigned hard for Clinton. Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #86
    Barely and late, certainly not hard. LizBeth May 2022 #100
    That's just not the truth. And Sanders voters turned out for Clinton Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #105
    Sanders spent months mouthy off the damaging talking points the Republicans picked LizBeth May 2022 #109
    I supported Sanders and voted for Hillary. We need to unite, not divide! Emile May 2022 #113
    Never forgive, never forget. Tell that to those girls and women struggling to LizBeth May 2022 #116
    We are on the same side, aren't we? Emile May 2022 #123
    Democrats generally are. What we saw in that campaign, not at all and Sanders LizBeth May 2022 #128
    I don't see this fighting the 2016 election as being helpful. Hillary won Emile May 2022 #132
    Of course you do not see the problem with Sanders contaminating HRC the way NO LizBeth May 2022 #135
    It seems we're only on the same side FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #139
    The numbers don't support you Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #130
    Enough to swing states like Michigan and only people that then voted Trump. LizBeth May 2022 #141
    This is just a ridiculous game Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #143
    You are right, it is not on Democrats. LizBeth May 2022 #144
    Just say it then Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #147
    I have made clear the damage done to HRC. LizBeth May 2022 #149
    He told women, out loud, that our concerns with SC were not the "important" issues. LizBeth May 2022 #142
    But Sanders supporters voted for Clinton. Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #145
    Isn't it ironic you can talk about HRC (the woman) in 2008, but not Sanders (the man) in 2016 LizBeth May 2022 #162
    I'm comparing the two. You are saying that Sanders didn't work enough for Clinton. Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #164
    6 appearances starting late in Sept with his stump speech. NO! He did not work hard. LizBeth May 2022 #166
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    He was/is ALL about his own demographics and a chip on his shoulders because he did not LizBeth May 2022 #177
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    It is in every speech and was pointed out every time he said it. LizBeth May 2022 #185
    Shouldn't be hard for you to find one, then. Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #187
    Queue the crickets!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #269
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    He said Hillary was corrupt and beholden to Wall Street and corporations. betsuni May 2022 #268
    and Hillary never said anything bad about Bernie! Why do Emile May 2022 #270
    What did Hillary say about Bernie? betsuni May 2022 #271
    Stop it! Emile May 2022 #272
    Stop what, the truth? betsuni May 2022 #273
    Stop fighting the 2016 primary! Emile May 2022 #274
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    Thank you!!! notinkansas May 2022 #148
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    He didn't campaign hard for her. W_HAMILTON May 2022 #156
    +1 LizBeth May 2022 #157
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    "Sanders (D-VT)"?? SouthBayDem May 2022 #66
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    BOOOOOOOMMMMM!!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #265
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    I remember iemanja May 2022 #153
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    +1 !!! TeamProg May 2022 #101
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    You posted it, want to give us examples? Emile May 2022 #190
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    Dennis Kucinich n/t Polybius May 2022 #203
    Then, Bernie, convince your pals to end the filibuster NOW SoonerPride May 2022 #189
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    Manchin and Sinema rebuffed Biden. SoonerPride May 2022 #217
    Message auto-removed Name removed May 2022 #206
    K&R. Dem leadership, Bernie and Schumer agree on this Arazi May 2022 #245
    Great news! Emile May 2022 #246
    Wise move for Schumer to support Bernie and others on this!! My hat's off to him!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2022 #249
    This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni May 2022 #264
    Don't lecture me, Bernie Just_Vote_Dem May 2022 #293
    What's so funny? Emile May 2022 #295
    People who complain about being "lectured" Just_Vote_Dem May 2022 #297
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