One has absolutely NOTHING to do with the other. Leave it to Nina to conflate the 2.

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64. Imo, those who empower those attempting to destroy it DESERVE

to lose all the benefits they deny and despise.

IMO, it's also dreadfully WRONG to empower those attempting to destroy it WITH NO POSSIBLE REPLACEMENT IN SIGHT, especially in 2017-18. Tens of millions would have lost their coverage if these people had succeeded. Many would have died and be dying every year.

That the ACA doesn't have everything we want is PROOF of the power of those opposing -- including, tragically, the sabotaging efforts from the left.

My god, the enormous battle for giant (excellent!) ACA package itself took years, and after passage 5000 regulations still had to be created and passed to put it in effect. A real "MfA" bill is yet to be started, not a fraction of a real, workable bill, not one regulation to attach to it (BIG clue there of its proponents' belief in its achievability).

This contempt for what we achieved with the ACA alone, instead of celebrating it as the great, unfinished achievement it was, probably lost us 2016 in itself and came close to destroying the ACA, with people on both right and left calling for its elimination -- especially in 2017 when the Republicans took over the federal government and we couldn't get a bill renaming a post office passed.

Btw, I changed my work in order to qualify for ACA coverage and leave my awful workplace insurance deductibles behind. We hadn't filed a claim in years because the deductibles kept the policies from paying out. Under my Marketplace policy, my premiums dropped substantially, my coverages increased enormously, and I caught up on 15 years of deferred healthcare, including surgery and establishment of care with expensive specialists.