One has absolutely NOTHING to do with the other. Leave it to Nina to conflate the 2.

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85. Everything's an excuse or a rationalisation, with (of course) 2016 tossed in

for relitigation yet again. It never ends, sort of like the boundless greed that dictates US healthcare.

You also try to critique shame by continually applying negative projection and codewords about what is, in reality, a simple series of completely truthful comparative statements. On balance, the US is getting gutted via wealth extraction by the for-profit healthcare model that includes the ACA. Less gutted with the ACA than with some dystopian Rethug hellscape, but gutted and wealth extracted nonetheless. To put it into simple terms, the system is, on balance, a massive ripoff. Pay more, get less, with needless pain and yes, death as well.

Finally:

Funny (not really) that you come straight after me and totally ignore the post I replied to:

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56. My deductible is seven grand (unaffordable)
My spouse’s is the same

Go on, tell them what an 'excellent' (your words) deal they have. I wager that when premiums and copays are factored in, they could easily be on the hook for 20,000, 25,000 USD (or far far more if a truly calamitous illness rears its ugly head) in wealth extraction per annum, for what is a basic human right in the rest of the advanced world.

Try and sell that 'excellent' deal to the vox populi of pretty much any other advanced nation on the planet. I 100% guarantee you will not at all like the outcome.