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CaptainTruth

(8,258 posts)
Tue May 10, 2022, 06:48 PM May 2022

If Roe can be overturned, so can Heller. A message for MAGAts... [View all]

Heller was the SCOTUS decision that established an individual right to own a gun.

From Wikipedia:

District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), was a landmark decision of the US Supreme Court ruling that the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution protects an individual's right to keep and bear arms, unconnected with service in a militia, for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home, and that the District of Columbia's handgun ban and requirement that lawfully owned rifles and shotguns be kept "unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock" violated this guarantee.


Roe v Wade was decided in 1973. District of Columbia v Heller was decided in 2008, much more recent & thus, according to Alito's reasoning anyway, not "deeply rooted in this nation's history."

This is just a point I've made to right-wing gun humpers who are cheering the impending fall of Roe, & it tends to stop them in their tracks, so I figured I'd share it.

Also, most MAGAts don't believe the GOP is trying to destroy American democracy, so this next point isn't always useful, but there are situations where you can make the point that if the Radical Right (which is what I call them now) succeed in eliminating true democracy & suppressing votes to the point that they're basically installing themselves as rulers, do you really think they will tolerate an armed public?

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Time to take away the men's toys. They are out of control. Irish_Dem May 2022 #1
The GOP spent 40 years slowly chipping away law after law Torchlight May 2022 #2
And also defunding public education. fierywoman May 2022 #15
I'd love to see it, but you're assuming quite a lot. maxsolomon May 2022 #3
I don't think I'm assuming anything, I'm merely stating that if A can happen, then B can happen too. CaptainTruth May 2022 #7
Alito pretty much stabbed Stare Decisis in the face. maxsolomon May 2022 #8
Many red states have already said they will ignore a federal ban... LiberatedUSA May 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2022 #9
They can ignore it all they want, but they can't stop the feds from enforcing it. Angleae May 2022 #14
Without a doubt... WarGamer May 2022 #5
Heller won't be overturned. It wasn't based on the penumbral privacy right Ocelot II May 2022 #6
I'm interested to know: did the Heller decision discuss privacy? It would seem that you in2herbs May 2022 #10
LOL Skittles May 2022 #11
If we could prove the R party is turning Fascist KS Toronado May 2022 #12
Oh noes! That means they can't shoot Turbineguy May 2022 #13
Probably not the most effective argument FBaggins May 2022 #16
This is very unlikely... appmanga May 2022 #17
"arms" are mentioned in the constitution - that makes a difference for "textualists" AlexSFCA May 2022 #18
AR-15s aren't. And why did they ignore the "well regulated militia" part of the text? SunSeeker May 2022 #20
And unlike Roe, Heller really was wrongly decided. nt SunSeeker May 2022 #19
I have to wonder sarisataka May 2022 #21
One thing this thread has taught me is that when I post on DU I need to choose my words carefully... CaptainTruth May 2022 #22
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