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RiskWrangler

(31 posts)
111. I agree Mortos with
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:30 AM
Oct 2012

your thoughts and work experiences on this topic. I was googling "Why is Oklahoma a Red State?" after yet another conversation with a client that left my office yesterday. So..I was led to this wonderful website and had to join. I have read through most of the responses on this topic. Even though I have lived in Oklahoma all of my life and no stranger to the (many times) nonsense attitudes that are prevalent, it still somehow baffles me how I can run into so many people whom make lower middle income salaries whom claim to be a Republican party supporter. One of several conclusions I have come to is this...many people are easily persuaded by others whom are in a position of seeming authority and want to be liked by them or be included in a group with them. I understand this from my experience in an advisement to others profession. There are many, many people that are easily misdirected and I have spent countless hours/days/weeks in helping these persons to get repaired from this misguided influence. One client told me he and his wife honestly just followed his pastor's advise about many areas of his life...financial, political, etc because he and his wife respected this person immensely and wanted to be like him, liked by him, and included in his group. They simply chose not to use their critical thinking capability to investigate if the actions they were taking were in "their" best interests. I also have quite a few of my relatives that are on government/taxpayer long-term assistance...social security disability, VA disability. I am not against these programs and agree still to this day that we need programs such as these to help those among our society whom have no other way. What I find amazing is they wouldn't put out a liberals body that is on fire if they had the fire hose. I have had calm conversations with most of them regarding this amazing lack of understanding, however, it's like I was trying to tell them that the world is round..they won't accept it. I am not by any means a political activist type of person, but if the subject comes up, I will tell them EXACTLY what I believe with a smile and continue trying to help and educate those in the state of Oklahoma so they can make better fundamental critical decisions going forward.

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Refreshing to hear and well said! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2012 #1
Well, if these people were true to their own convictions and beliefs they would NOT vote for Mitt kelliekat44 Oct 2012 #109
Yep!!! Agree!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2012 #112
What about Cherokee and Native American culture? Kolesar Oct 2012 #2
I have a co-worker who is Native American she said skeewee08 Oct 2012 #21
The "hate the Mexicans" message of Romney can't be helping them Kolesar Oct 2012 #27
sounds like alaska which was dem until oil and roguevalley Oct 2012 #31
President Obama received a lot of Native American support in 2008. lalalu Oct 2012 #48
The Principal Chief of the Cherokee Nation headed the Oklahoma delegation at the convention flyingfysh Oct 2012 #46
Yes, that is what I want to see Kolesar Oct 2012 #59
Museums Beartracks Oct 2012 #95
The "Collector's Reserve" collection at the Gilcrease is amazing Kolesar Oct 2012 #103
"Surf's up"??? You on the east coast? Beartracks Oct 2012 #105
"Web" surfing, lol Kolesar Oct 2012 #106
When I See A Red State Like Oklahoma Turn Even Purple I Will Know That People Just ---- TheMastersNemesis Oct 2012 #3
It's amazing. Many of the recipients don't get it that they are the ones to be cut RKP5637 Oct 2012 #7
These people vote against themselves Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #22
Google up OK's state questions for this year... It'll blow your mind Wednesdays Oct 2012 #32
OMG! Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #36
I am not seeing the same thing in Kansas hfojvt Oct 2012 #4
In this part of KS I don't see a whole lot of Romney/Ryan signs, but I guess it's about RKP5637 Oct 2012 #11
I am seeing more bumperstickers than yard signs hfojvt Oct 2012 #18
Texas is also still bad PDittie Oct 2012 #15
I almost got rear ended on the highway Mortos Oct 2012 #16
and that's why I don't believe Ohio was a Bush victory over Kerry Divine Discontent Oct 2012 #97
IMOH I believe Buddaman Oct 2012 #5
I have one close Native friend Mortos Oct 2012 #6
Is the pow wow always in June? n/t littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #37
Suppose Obama had said: "You know those red-neck Okies? They will never vote for me. My job is not kelliekat44 Oct 2012 #8
They have been brainwashed by Foxnews and it's echo chamber Mortos Oct 2012 #10
I too am flummoxed by the lack of robme/lyan yard signs or bumper stickers madokie Oct 2012 #9
The same article said in Tulsa Obama and Romney are tied OKNancy Oct 2012 #35
I'm hoping that the pollsters are either lying to us or they're cherry picking who they call madokie Oct 2012 #41
I started answering "unavailable" OKNancy Oct 2012 #45
I will start answering those unavailable calls Mortos Oct 2012 #50
that is basically happened in 1948 gejohnston Oct 2012 #92
Ditto in South Carolina Mary in S. Carolina Oct 2012 #12
r0mney has been openly duplicitous, decietful, has committed many gaffes, geckosfeet Oct 2012 #13
My sister lives in OK City Aerows Oct 2012 #14
I was just reading about the LDS Church Sekhmets Daughter Oct 2012 #30
Do you have a reference for that? littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #38
It was an article in Rolling Stone Sekhmets Daughter Oct 2012 #51
Thanks! littlemissmartypants Oct 2012 #54
You're welcome! Sekhmets Daughter Oct 2012 #58
thank you for sharing this. barbtries Oct 2012 #17
GOTV left on green only Oct 2012 #99
Nice to hear there are people out there seeing through Romney. Tennessee Gal Oct 2012 #19
Okie born and raised. srichardson Oct 2012 #89
I have a cousin who lives in Oklahoma... cheriemedium59 Oct 2012 #20
Unfortunately, it's a lot more polarized here! But we also have a lot of increasingly vocal Dustlawyer Oct 2012 #23
I also live in Oklahoma (Edmond) skeewee08 Oct 2012 #24
I was blessed to live in Norman... a la izquierda Oct 2012 #25
And yet the Corporate Media says the race is tied!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2012 #26
Your post was exactly what I needed to hear.. mountain grammy Oct 2012 #28
I'm in the OKC area, and I tend to agree Wednesdays Oct 2012 #29
If I were you. tabasco Oct 2012 #33
I hate it when posters pop off like this OKNancy Oct 2012 #40
Same here. I love living in Oklahoma Mortos Oct 2012 #47
.." the land we belong to is grand..." OKNancy Oct 2012 #53
That's his MO. A royal asshole Ishoutandscream2 Oct 2012 #56
Too bad. tabasco Oct 2012 #63
I like to say that we live in a wonderful country SheilaT Oct 2012 #64
If someone says bless you to me DiverDave Oct 2012 #110
And obverse of the "love it or leave it crowd". GoneOffShore Oct 2012 #60
You are completely wrong. JNelson6563 Oct 2012 #73
well said, Julie... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2012 #79
I smell a Democratic landslide...nt Clear Blue Sky Oct 2012 #34
I'm leery of predicting outcomes based on signs or stickers. bluethruandthru Oct 2012 #39
dont live in OK but tapermaker Oct 2012 #42
Used to live in Tulsa, now in the Kansas City area TlalocW Oct 2012 #43
Here's the thing Mortos... Volaris Oct 2012 #44
Romney is just so fake as a person and politician. Jennicut Oct 2012 #49
Even if Obama won't get the state treestar Oct 2012 #52
was the most racist state i ever lived in JCMach1 Oct 2012 #55
Also, Elvis got booed when he played here! Joey Liberal Oct 2012 #72
Very first law Firebirds01 Oct 2012 #57
Well....that femrap Oct 2012 #61
I'm with you ladym55 Oct 2012 #81
K&R for Mortos and this OP David Zephyr Oct 2012 #62
I live in the OKC Area redstatebluegirl Oct 2012 #65
What is it with Deans and Dept Heads? Is it all about the money? n/t busterbrown Oct 2012 #68
I am not sure redstatebluegirl Oct 2012 #69
I live in OK too. Altus okwlc21 Oct 2012 #66
Don't worry about the yards signs. OFA is concentrating on ground game instead beac Oct 2012 #67
Thanks for the welcome :) okwlc21 Oct 2012 #74
Oh dear! beac Oct 2012 #85
Every county in Okla. will vote for Romney Joey Liberal Oct 2012 #70
Yes your right not one will. okwlc21 Oct 2012 #75
Ever heard of Frosty Troy? Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2012 #77
we always called the morning news MrsBrady Oct 2012 #82
Having relatives in OK and visiting there alot...I feel bad for you all rainbow4321 Oct 2012 #71
I am seeing similar things in the oilfields of Alaska. Arctic Dave Oct 2012 #76
For down-ticket benefits, let's hope the Ilsa Oct 2012 #78
Similar here Doctor_J Oct 2012 #80
Just goes to show what uninformed voluntarily ignorant racist hypocrites deadbrokediva Oct 2012 #83
I needed to read your post and the thread ladym55 Oct 2012 #84
"There is a palpable apathy towards Romney if not downright dislike." Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #86
any ideas on the political climate in McIntosh County? Dan Oct 2012 #87
I don't know about McIntosh county. Mortos Oct 2012 #102
COMRADES, the View from Tulsa is RED! rablrouzer Oct 2012 #88
Welcome to DU sellitman Oct 2012 #93
Good to hear SalviaBlue Oct 2012 #90
Whoa - thanks for this report! GREATLY interesting, Mortos! calimary Oct 2012 #91
We have lived here 12 years redstatebluegirl Oct 2012 #104
Welcome to DU, redstatebluegirl! Sorry you have to live in such awful circumstances. calimary Oct 2012 #107
Thanks! redstatebluegirl Oct 2012 #108
I appreciate that report very much. I'm hoping things will keep going that way. freshwest Oct 2012 #94
Thank you for this very hope-inspiring, well-written post BlueCaliDem Oct 2012 #96
The GOP will steal it, if they have to. blkmusclmachine Oct 2012 #98
I've lived in or around Oklahoma City my entire life. Kellen RN Oct 2012 #100
Kick & recommended. William769 Oct 2012 #101
I agree Mortos with RiskWrangler Oct 2012 #111
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