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120. The last time I checked, the sentence for animal cruelty was not

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:49 PM

Oct 2012

locking up someone for life.

Look, when i was 11 or 12 years old, I received a BB-gun for my birthday. I promptly took it out and shot a frog in our crick to death with it. Why would I do such a stupid, senseless thing to a creature who threatened no harm to me? Beats the shit out of me now - hate to say it was just idle pre-adolescent curiosity but I'm pretty sure that's all it was. I shot that frog to death simply because I could.

I felt the most intense regret after having done so and never repeated the incident. But I now think killing animals, even pets, may be part of the maturation process as children develop into adult human beings, without being necessarily indicative of any pre-disposition to serial killing. I would be taking a very close look at 'anger' issues with this 12-year-old and looking very closely at his family environment. But locking him up for life?

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boy says he was mad at his dog so he killed it [View all] xchrom Oct 2012 OP

little fucker needs to spend the rest of his life in a mental institution. jorno67 Oct 2012 #1

He needs serious help...he's only 12. barnabas63 Oct 2012 #5

I said mental institution not prison... jorno67 Oct 2012 #9

duh. he's 12. nt barnabas63 Oct 2012 #11

Children are harmless FrodosPet Oct 2012 #24

He's a 12-year-old psychopath... joeybee12 Oct 2012 #48

frodospet probably realises that, it looks like a snark on negligent leniency. Kurovski Oct 2012 #55

I think it's more disturbing coming from a 12 year old treestar Oct 2012 #14

Exactly! jorno67 Oct 2012 #15

He will never be okay. Never able to be around people. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #59

I don't think he can be helped, unfortunately. Dash87 Oct 2012 #91

While this does not technically violate DU's ToS, it is very, very coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #6

i agree.. barnabas63 Oct 2012 #7

Yeah, keep the psychopath out there so he can kill again... joeybee12 Oct 2012 #50

Did you even deign to read the post to which I was responding? Or are you coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #64

I am saying that I'm not only okay with it... Chan790 Oct 2012 #94

clearly the only two choices are to lock him up forever or to let him go now fishwax Oct 2012 #81

We're entitled to our opinion. But when the hugs and kumbaya don't work.. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #60

Novelist Anne Perry disagrees with you. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #131

Feel better now? cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #16

fail... jorno67 Oct 2012 #25

Fail. cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #41

Yep...and at no point did I say this little fucker should be in prison... jorno67 Oct 2012 #45

Funny, I don't recall claiming you said he should be in prison cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #46

No it wasn't. What he did was horrible. jorno67 Oct 2012 #52

You advocated locking up a 12-year-old for life. You can't spin your coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #66

Good luck with that... jorno67 Oct 2012 #71

If you stood by it you wouldn't keep rephrasing it, pretending it means something else. cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #75

ha! I was trying to phrase it in a way you'd understand it, as you clearly did not understand it in jorno67 Oct 2012 #78

Sometimes I wonder about DU. A jury voted 3-3 to leave your post standing and coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #101

Good for you! jorno67 Oct 2012 #102

So do you feel good about yourself now? glacierbay Oct 2012 #107

There's nothing to "spin" out of. hifiguy Oct 2012 #103

Just to be clear: you are thereby advocating locking up a 12-year-old for coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #108

Hardly. I made a simple statement about the nature of hifiguy Oct 2012 #109

So do you hereby repudiate Jorno67's suggestion that "the little fucker . . . coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #110

I never made any statement agreeing or disagreeing with him/her hifiguy Oct 2012 #111

Whew! My comment about trying to 'spin' was directed at Jorno67's attempts to coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #113

again...you left out "in a mental institution" part... jorno67 Oct 2012 #117

My statement was made at post 109. hifiguy Oct 2012 #118

you left out the "mental institution" part... jorno67 Oct 2012 #115

Gad... nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #76

I guess it's good they know this about him now, before TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #2

At least he didn't strap it to the top of a car jenw2 Oct 2012 #3

At least that dog lived glacierbay Oct 2012 #18

Future michael vick. Speaking of sick little fuckers. underseasurveyor Oct 2012 #35

When I heard about what Vick did glacierbay Oct 2012 #40

"glad they got to this kid" dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #44

I think intense psychological therapy, glacierbay Oct 2012 #47

Recent research JonLP24 Oct 2012 #126

ty for that info. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #128

Your kidding right? glacierbay Oct 2012 #26

If the dog lived, why did people make such a big issue about it? jenw2 Oct 2012 #32

Because it was about Romney and his lack of judgement. glacierbay Oct 2012 #37

I don't remember reading anything claiming that the dog survived jenw2 Oct 2012 #39

1 minute with google would have enlightened you glacierbay Oct 2012 #43

Actually, the rumor is the dog got down from the car, and ran away in Canada joeybee12 Oct 2012 #53

If I were Mittens dog glacierbay Oct 2012 #54

Because it's a cruel way to treat a dog. TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #42

I have to wonder then.... underseasurveyor Oct 2012 #57

The children are our future REP Oct 2012 #4

Budding Vulture Capitalist marions ghost Oct 2012 #8

these things happen quinnox Oct 2012 #10

These things don't happen unless a child is pretty severely disturbed. TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #12

I've heard it does take a long time for a dog to die from hanging. alphafemale Oct 2012 #69

He already is a killer TrogL Oct 2012 #19

It's a pretty good leading indicator, though. hifiguy Oct 2012 #21

are you being sarcastic???? progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #61

I mostly agree, BUT........ AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #99

If watching violent movies or playing violent video games JonLP24 Oct 2012 #138

Shrub blew up frogs with firecrackers as a kid. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #83

Wow horrible treestar Oct 2012 #13

serial killer in the making... movonne Oct 2012 #17

This is exactly how serial killers start ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #20

12 year old dog killers are not created in a vacuum OriginalGeek Oct 2012 #22

Yep. Sounds like a cry for help. Glimmer of Hope Oct 2012 #27

I'd say there's suspicion in the family's involvement kentauros Oct 2012 #33

I was wondering about that myself. nt. glacierbay Oct 2012 #34

my guess: he lives with alcoholic or rage-aholic parent(s) KurtNYC Oct 2012 #106

This is so not normal gollygee Oct 2012 #23

you never burnt ants through a magnifying glass as a kid? quinnox Oct 2012 #28

Kids can be brutal to things they can remove themselves emotionally from gollygee Oct 2012 #29

You wouldn't be saying this shit glacierbay Oct 2012 #31

let's just say I have personal experience quinnox Oct 2012 #38

I'm jumping to this conclusion from my 30 years as a police officer glacierbay Oct 2012 #51

+1. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #132

You know darn well that his parents saw behaviour(s) previous to this underseasurveyor Oct 2012 #30

Some psychopaths are just born that way. Whovian Oct 2012 #36

I strongly disagree that they are born that way. vanlassie Oct 2012 #87

Yes, some are born that way. Nt DevonRex Oct 2012 #100

Sociopath, meet your next serial killer :(n/t arthritisR_US Oct 2012 #49

Which is his other hobby, bed-wetting or fire-setting? Tom Ripley Oct 2012 #56

Future Dexter in the making? Initech Oct 2012 #58

well considering many Americans think a show about a quirky serial killer is FUN... progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #62

Good point. At least Dexter has a moral code... Initech Oct 2012 #63

Is that what it's about? I guess I shouldn't be surprised. n/t Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #65

Future Dahmer maybe. Incitatus Oct 2012 #73

That is how he got started actually. Initech Oct 2012 #79

This child needs some serious love. KurtNYC Oct 2012 #67

He can spend the night at your house. alphafemale Oct 2012 #70

Did that feel good? KurtNYC Oct 2012 #72

He hung up his pet dog by its neck because he wanted to watch it die. No way I'd embrace that. alphafemale Oct 2012 #77

Love doesn't fix psychopathy. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #85

My guess is that he experienced, and in the process learned, this type of behavior KurtNYC Oct 2012 #88

I seem to remember people mocking Senator Frist for making medical diagnosis from afar mythology Oct 2012 #89

You are absolutely corect. nt darkangel218 Oct 2012 #112

That boy is in serious need of mental health care slackmaster Oct 2012 #68

Children who harm animals grow up to be serial killers. Bake Oct 2012 #74

Why, I never knew there were so many experts in adolescent psych. dev. on DU! markpkessinger Oct 2012 #80

thank you quinnox Oct 2012 #86

Thank you. I wish I could rec this response 1,000,000 times and then 1 more for coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #116

I want this kid locked up for life glacierbay Oct 2012 #119

The last time I checked, the sentence for animal cruelty was not coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #120

WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?! jorno67 Oct 2012 #121

Scary, ain't it? glacierbay Oct 2012 #123

yeah to think that it is normal for kids to kill their pets... jorno67 Oct 2012 #125

A frog is not like a pet glacierbay Oct 2012 #122

If you truly mean this, you have issues of your own. hifiguy Oct 2012 #136

I grant you that killing a pet strikes me as over-the-top (thereby explaining why coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #137

+1. i also never knew that 'lock the kid up & throw away the key' was the new democratic normal. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #139

Kids like this punk usually become adult sociopaths/psychopaths. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #82

That hurts for so many reasons. graywarrior Oct 2012 #84

somebody should get equally mad at the kid... BlueMan Votes Oct 2012 #90

Have you considered the possibility that someone already has and that is why he is like he is? lonestarnot Oct 2012 #92

if somebody already had- he wouldn't have been around to kill the dog. BlueMan Votes Oct 2012 #97

So you would advocate to kill the 12 year old. Yes we see why you are like you are by your own lonestarnot Oct 2012 #104

oh well... BlueMan Votes Oct 2012 #124

12 is old enough, i thought he would turn out to be like 8 . but the Kid is on his way to doing a JI7 Oct 2012 #93

Anybody else wonder if...... AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #95

Dahmer, Bundy and Chimpy Bush hifiguy Oct 2012 #105

Yeah, but both Bundy and Dahmer were still abused as children. AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #134

George W Bush liked to kill animals B Calm Oct 2012 #96

why didn't the 911 caller and other "people" take the hanging dog off the doorknob?!!! Sunlei Oct 2012 #98

horrible story Liberal_in_LA Oct 2012 #114

While JonLP24 Oct 2012 #127

In my opinion glacierbay Oct 2012 #130

I'm just saying JonLP24 Oct 2012 #133

I'm not disagreeing with you for the most part glacierbay Oct 2012 #135

Look for him on the GOP ticket in 2036 KamaAina Oct 2012 #129

Serial killer Hometown Slice Oct 2012 #140

The next Jeffrey Dahmer. n/t RiffRandell Oct 2012 #141