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Happy Hoosier

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98. Common sense doesn't always translate

Sat May 14, 2022, 09:44 PM

May 2022

To reality is engineering. And I am an engineer. Lead acid batteries are damaged by being too deeply discharged, not repeated relatively shallow discharges. The alternator recharges the battery relatively quickly. The battery can be damaged by storing it not fully charged as well.

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Anyone else hate the auto-stop feature of newer cars? [View all] honest.abe May 2022 OP

I got one of those in a rental in Netherlands and it freaked me out. CurtEastPoint May 2022 #1

No. WhiskeyGrinder May 2022 #2

Our 2020 KIA Soul has that. MineralMan May 2022 #3

Yeah I had read it was something to do with epa standards. honest.abe May 2022 #7

I don't see why they'd go against EPA regulations. jimfields33 May 2022 #12

I think there may be better more effective ways to save the environment. honest.abe May 2022 #13

Why do you think this affects battery life? Happy Hoosier May 2022 #38

Starting an engine is a heavy load on the battery. honest.abe May 2022 #40

So you got a bad battery? Happy Hoosier May 2022 #49

I never made any generalized conclusions.. just speculating. honest.abe May 2022 #86

Common sense doesn't always translate Happy Hoosier May 2022 #98

THINGS THAT CAN DRAIN YOUR CAR BATTERY honest.abe May 2022 #99

If we want to save the environment we must rebuild our cities and society... hunter May 2022 #51

Not on the KIA. MineralMan May 2022 #22

You can buy a cable on Amazon to disable the auto stop function dalton99a May 2022 #4

Apparently there are a number of these devises out there. honest.abe May 2022 #9

First see if your top L gear setting emulates D. roamer65 May 2022 #62

That'll make your car flunk the smog test in California. hunter May 2022 #48

They probably need to call those intrepid VW engineers. They know how to do everything. JanMichael May 2022 #85

Hah! hunter May 2022 #101

Try changing lanes Tickle May 2022 #5

Maybe that's why battery warranties have been so shortened bucolic_frolic May 2022 #6

Mine has that as default mode. Tommy Carcetti May 2022 #8

I suspect newer vehicles won't last as long dalton99a May 2022 #14

I have a 2017 Chevy Cruze and here is how I circumvent it. roamer65 May 2022 #10

I love it, have had that feature for a decade (Ford cars) and it works great. OnDoutside May 2022 #11

My Kia K5 does it and I've learned to like it. marmar May 2022 #15

Don't have that problem because my car is Goonch May 2022 #16

+1. There is more than one keyhole dalton99a May 2022 #21

No alchohol detector is a good thing? CrackityJones75 May 2022 #31

Uh yeah Calculating May 2022 #90

Nanny state? CrackityJones75 May 2022 #95

Yeah Calculating May 2022 #96

Riiiight. CrackityJones75 May 2022 #97

Mine is 14 yrs old nt XanaDUer2 May 2022 #23

My 2006 truck and 2012 SUV don't have the annoyance and I love them for it. roamer65 May 2022 #53

My 2007 doesn't have that issue either. Dial H For Hero May 2022 #102

Ask your repair shop if the car has a battery sensor Best_man23 May 2022 #17

Nope. But I drive a Prius NickB79 May 2022 #18

Auto-stop is not a problem in EVs and hybrids dalton99a May 2022 #43

I have a 2019 Kia Optima and gunned it at a green light. DemocratSinceBirth May 2022 #19

That would be unnerving MissB May 2022 #26

Yep. That has happened to me as well. honest.abe May 2022 #27

Consensus here seems to favor that disabling systems that increase fuel mileage is OK MichMan May 2022 #20

If the system has serious flaws then yes. honest.abe May 2022 #28

What is the serious flaw? CrackityJones75 May 2022 #34

Did you read my OP? honest.abe May 2022 #39

Mine works flawlessly MichMan May 2022 #44

Yes mine probably has a "serious flaw". honest.abe May 2022 #45

Absolutely, if it is dangerous. I drive in the city. I couldn't possibly have something like that... Demsrule86 May 2022 #41

It's definitely dangerous in urban settings. roamer65 May 2022 #55

It really does...and it is dangerous on a busy highway as you can't move immediately. Demsrule86 May 2022 #59

Only time I shut my engine off on a freeway or highway is if traffic is an extended dead stop. roamer65 May 2022 #61

It doesn't really increase fuel mileage that much. roamer65 May 2022 #47

No the consensus is "get off my lawn dagnabit." BannonsLiver May 2022 #58

Interesting thread sarisataka May 2022 #24

+1 CrackityJones75 May 2022 #35

No, love it obamanut2012 May 2022 #25

If battery sits not fully charged it will sulphate & won't recharge properly SheltieLover May 2022 #29

One more advantage Zeitghost May 2022 #30

Auto-stop and CVT will send newer cars to an early grave dalton99a May 2022 #42

Agreed Zeitghost May 2022 #56

I have some kind of braking and warning features on my car. ananda May 2022 #32

Yes. When my cars had that feature I would always turn it off as soon as I started the car. beaglelover May 2022 #33

I have a Mazda CX30 and you can enable or disable the auto stop/start mitch96 May 2022 #36

Kick dalton99a May 2022 #37

Am I the only one who's never heard of 'auto start/stop'? Talitha May 2022 #46

You can circumvent it in a couple of ways. Xavier Breath May 2022 #57

Thanks! My 2000 Envoy isn't going to last forever, so it's good to know these things. Talitha May 2022 #79

This is the first I've heard of it, too. Basic LA May 2022 #81

Well it's good to know I'm not alone, lol. Talitha May 2022 #84

If people want to truly save fuel wasted in useless idling. roamer65 May 2022 #50

Yes, because when my previous car was in its death throes it would hesitate tanyev May 2022 #52

I dont like it either. SYFROYH May 2022 #54

Does anyone know the median age of DU? BannonsLiver May 2022 #60

I saw a poll a while back. It seems we are mostly middle age and above. I am 78. asa4ever May 2022 #80

You can disable it on most cars... WarGamer May 2022 #63

GM vehicle? roamer65 May 2022 #67

That's clever... WarGamer May 2022 #68

I wish I had one. roamer65 May 2022 #69

Maybe it's my formative years in the 70's-80's... WarGamer May 2022 #70

I have a classic car. roamer65 May 2022 #71

Remember the "Give it 3 pumps of gas before turning the ignition"? WarGamer May 2022 #72

1970 Chevelle. roamer65 May 2022 #73

OMG WarGamer May 2022 #74

1969 and 1970 are expensive beasts now. roamer65 May 2022 #75

thx for the side discussion!! Nice to run into another "motorhead"... WarGamer May 2022 #76

Np. roamer65 May 2022 #77

I had a car that I had to stick a piece of wood. . . ironflange May 2022 #87

Back in my cars day, we called that a stalled engine. Lancero May 2022 #64

I disabled it. It still makes a sound and flashes an alert when it thinks I need to brake ecstatic May 2022 #65

"Over 1.7M Hondas probed for unexpected automatic braking" ecstatic May 2022 #66

I like it a lot jmowreader May 2022 #78

Adaptive Cruise Control question Lucid Dreamer May 2022 #88

I've never been in the situation you describe, but manual braking would be prudent then jmowreader May 2022 #91

His experience was Summer of 2019. Lucid Dreamer May 2022 #93

I love it. nt Celerity May 2022 #82

According to Google my Subaru whistler162 May 2022 #83

Yes. I despise it. hamsterjill May 2022 #89

Yes.. that's precisely how I feel. honest.abe May 2022 #94

Awful idea IMO Calculating May 2022 #92

It's Just Part Of My Routine To Hit The Button Every Time ChoppinBroccoli May 2022 #100