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In reply to the discussion: Homemade baby formula is NOT safe or recommended [View all]hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)88. I have repeatedly stated facts. You chose to ignore them and try to redefine what I am saying
I find that dishonest at this point. Good day.
But for any you manage to convince that you are not being disingenuous nor attempting to redefine what I have said, I posted the following in multiple posts on this thread. My decades of medical practice and research are consistent with science, not mere belief.
Pituitary-Prolactin loop only works in those who have had a hormonal influence, not in men
no matter how much you stimulate, unless they have a pituitary tumor. Hormonal influence is necessary for that pituitary prolactin loop to be effectuated. The occasional post-menopausal woman who successfully does so, had hormonal influence during the development of this vital brain loop from the pituitary to nerve endings and back which cause prolactin to be released. Some of these women likewise have non-ovarian sources of hormones still circulating, albeit at lower levels.
Hormonal influence does not equate to exogenous hormonal support. I should think you would understand that. If you are conflating my use of the term "medical intervention" as such, I was referring to YOU as the medical intervention, the instruction that can allow a female body in many (not all) cases to lactate we'll beyond their first attempt post-pregnancy, but that only occurs due to the hormonal influence that causes that pituitary-prolactin feedback loop to develop in the first place. Thus we don't see it in men, except for the rare male with a pituitary tumor.
Women must be under hormonal influence. Prolactin is produced by the pituitary gland in response to nipple stimulation. By itself, prolactin can trigger milk-producing structures in the breast to develop and milk to be produced. But, to suggest that naturally occurring hormonal influence is not necessary for the pituitary-prolactin feedback loop is not true, despite some claiming that men (sans a pituitary tumor) can be induced to lactate. Oncologists have seen it, but this is exceedingly rare. Sorry, no.
It requires hormonal influence so you aren't going to cause a woman to lactate months later to feed her young toddler unless she has intervention. YOU TEACHING HER TO STIMULATE HER BREASTS IS THAT INTERVENTION!
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Formula isn't even good for you . Both recall this year and there are more.
Demsrule86
May 2022
#117
I worked in neonatal...We fed commercial formulas to premies..many of these infants are tube fed
LeftInTX
May 2022
#120
Do you really think that was an appropriate response to a sincere warning from the OP?
hlthe2b
May 2022
#6
I have repeatedly provided some response to this in the thead. I can't make you read
hlthe2b
May 2022
#26
Some said order on Amazon from Canada...they have plenty...just the corporations
Demsrule86
May 2022
#57
No. but on DU they have a right to civil discourse, not attacks for presenting health safety info
hlthe2b
May 2022
#38
Nor is watering down canned formula to make it "stretch..." The latter is deadly
hlthe2b
May 2022
#4
It's a surprise we made it at all before the salvation of corporate america's baby formula
Fullduplexxx
May 2022
#5
Of course breast feeding is superior, but it is not an answer for women NOW who are no longer
hlthe2b
May 2022
#10
Yes. It requires hormonal influence so you aren't going to cause a woman to lactate
hlthe2b
May 2022
#39
Pituitary-Prolactin loop only works in those who have had a hormonal influence, not in men
hlthe2b
May 2022
#76
I never said USE of hormones is necessary. Honestly, you don't to follow what others here
hlthe2b
May 2022
#81
I have repeatedly stated facts. You chose to ignore them and try to redefine what I am saying
hlthe2b
May 2022
#88
I have a pituitary tumor and can confirm this is true. I could have been a wet nurse
Lettuce Be
May 2022
#124
You are being too simplistic or disingenuous about what I and others have said.
hlthe2b
May 2022
#67
Yes. I've worked and observed a lot of good laction nurses and they are marvelous, but those
hlthe2b
May 2022
#69
Actually, human milk is not superior. It's the evolutionary norm and where the bar for comparison
ARPad95
May 2022
#52
CNN keeps having these pediatricians on who give these warnings. OK, what does one do
Hoyt
May 2022
#8
Powdered formula is available in some of these areas. For babies older than twelve months,
hlthe2b
May 2022
#17
Unfortunately, trade is one of the issues that caused enough Democrats not to support Clinton,
Hoyt
May 2022
#27
No. Canada has already offered. They DO have surplus because this is not a worldwide issue
hlthe2b
May 2022
#28
Hospitals have long been subject to lobbying efforts by manufacturers to use their product
hlthe2b
May 2022
#71
Maybe read the thread instead of throwing out your ire at the OP who is merely trying to help
hlthe2b
May 2022
#20
Breastfeeding might have been 90% in early 20th century, but when my babies were born,
Arkansas Granny
May 2022
#36
" He also prescribed vitamin drops for babies on homemade formulas and breastfed babies."
hlthe2b
May 2022
#37
Nice of you to twist my words. I never advocated that anyone "grab a can
Arkansas Granny
May 2022
#102
Words do matter. The poster with whom I was conversing should have clarified after I and others
hlthe2b
May 2022
#111
It is perfectly safe and their are recipes online...the formula comanies have been gouging for
Demsrule86
May 2022
#58
If it is not safe why aren't the people born in the 1950s and 1960s all dead?
former9thward
May 2022
#42
Gosh, what about all the people born before 1940? How did they survive infancy without antibiotics?
LeftInTX
May 2022
#53
"I wouldn't recommend using this for more than a couple days as an emergency stopgap"
867-5309.
May 2022
#60
That is ridiculous...and there is all sorts of crap in commercial baby formula. Baby boomers
Demsrule86
May 2022
#56
My sister, who produced a LOT of milk while nursing her kids, used to donate to a
tblue37
May 2022
#65
I agree and if I had been forced to bottlefeed, I would have made my own formula. I made my
Demsrule86
May 2022
#116