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glacierbay

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135. I'm not disagreeing with you for the most part

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 02:49 PM

Oct 2012

I believe that this kid is a victim of mental and/or physical abuse, which might include sexual abuse, and I don't know if there are other instances of animal abuse in his past.
I'm particularly disturbed by the report that the family inside wouldn't let the police in to investigate the report of an animal being hurt, that tells me that the family knew about his history and were trying to shield the kid from being found out, and why the hell didn't someone in the house save that poor dog? They HAD to know about it.
It sounds like the whole family needs investigated, which is going to happen now.
Of course this is all speculation on my part, but I do have a lot of experience from the LE side of this issue and I'm just going on experience at this point.
Regardless, I'm glad they got this kid before it could possiby escalate and he should get intense therapy.

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boy says he was mad at his dog so he killed it [View all] xchrom Oct 2012 OP

little fucker needs to spend the rest of his life in a mental institution. jorno67 Oct 2012 #1

He needs serious help...he's only 12. barnabas63 Oct 2012 #5

I said mental institution not prison... jorno67 Oct 2012 #9

duh. he's 12. nt barnabas63 Oct 2012 #11

Children are harmless FrodosPet Oct 2012 #24

He's a 12-year-old psychopath... joeybee12 Oct 2012 #48

frodospet probably realises that, it looks like a snark on negligent leniency. Kurovski Oct 2012 #55

I think it's more disturbing coming from a 12 year old treestar Oct 2012 #14

Exactly! jorno67 Oct 2012 #15

He will never be okay. Never able to be around people. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #59

I don't think he can be helped, unfortunately. Dash87 Oct 2012 #91

While this does not technically violate DU's ToS, it is very, very coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #6

i agree.. barnabas63 Oct 2012 #7

Yeah, keep the psychopath out there so he can kill again... joeybee12 Oct 2012 #50

Did you even deign to read the post to which I was responding? Or are you coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #64

I am saying that I'm not only okay with it... Chan790 Oct 2012 #94

clearly the only two choices are to lock him up forever or to let him go now fishwax Oct 2012 #81

We're entitled to our opinion. But when the hugs and kumbaya don't work.. progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #60

Novelist Anne Perry disagrees with you. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #131

Feel better now? cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #16

fail... jorno67 Oct 2012 #25

Fail. cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #41

Yep...and at no point did I say this little fucker should be in prison... jorno67 Oct 2012 #45

Funny, I don't recall claiming you said he should be in prison cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #46

No it wasn't. What he did was horrible. jorno67 Oct 2012 #52

You advocated locking up a 12-year-old for life. You can't spin your coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #66

Good luck with that... jorno67 Oct 2012 #71

If you stood by it you wouldn't keep rephrasing it, pretending it means something else. cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #75

ha! I was trying to phrase it in a way you'd understand it, as you clearly did not understand it in jorno67 Oct 2012 #78

Sometimes I wonder about DU. A jury voted 3-3 to leave your post standing and coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #101

Good for you! jorno67 Oct 2012 #102

So do you feel good about yourself now? glacierbay Oct 2012 #107

There's nothing to "spin" out of. hifiguy Oct 2012 #103

Just to be clear: you are thereby advocating locking up a 12-year-old for coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #108

Hardly. I made a simple statement about the nature of hifiguy Oct 2012 #109

So do you hereby repudiate Jorno67's suggestion that "the little fucker . . . coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #110

I never made any statement agreeing or disagreeing with him/her hifiguy Oct 2012 #111

Whew! My comment about trying to 'spin' was directed at Jorno67's attempts to coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #113

again...you left out "in a mental institution" part... jorno67 Oct 2012 #117

My statement was made at post 109. hifiguy Oct 2012 #118

you left out the "mental institution" part... jorno67 Oct 2012 #115

Gad... nadinbrzezinski Oct 2012 #76

I guess it's good they know this about him now, before TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #2

At least he didn't strap it to the top of a car jenw2 Oct 2012 #3

At least that dog lived glacierbay Oct 2012 #18

Future michael vick. Speaking of sick little fuckers. underseasurveyor Oct 2012 #35

When I heard about what Vick did glacierbay Oct 2012 #40

"glad they got to this kid" dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #44

I think intense psychological therapy, glacierbay Oct 2012 #47

Recent research JonLP24 Oct 2012 #126

ty for that info. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2012 #128

Your kidding right? glacierbay Oct 2012 #26

If the dog lived, why did people make such a big issue about it? jenw2 Oct 2012 #32

Because it was about Romney and his lack of judgement. glacierbay Oct 2012 #37

I don't remember reading anything claiming that the dog survived jenw2 Oct 2012 #39

1 minute with google would have enlightened you glacierbay Oct 2012 #43

Actually, the rumor is the dog got down from the car, and ran away in Canada joeybee12 Oct 2012 #53

If I were Mittens dog glacierbay Oct 2012 #54

Because it's a cruel way to treat a dog. TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #42

I have to wonder then.... underseasurveyor Oct 2012 #57

The children are our future REP Oct 2012 #4

Budding Vulture Capitalist marions ghost Oct 2012 #8

these things happen quinnox Oct 2012 #10

These things don't happen unless a child is pretty severely disturbed. TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #12

I've heard it does take a long time for a dog to die from hanging. alphafemale Oct 2012 #69

He already is a killer TrogL Oct 2012 #19

It's a pretty good leading indicator, though. hifiguy Oct 2012 #21

are you being sarcastic???? progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #61

I mostly agree, BUT........ AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #99

If watching violent movies or playing violent video games JonLP24 Oct 2012 #138

Shrub blew up frogs with firecrackers as a kid. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #83

Wow horrible treestar Oct 2012 #13

serial killer in the making... movonne Oct 2012 #17

This is exactly how serial killers start ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2012 #20

12 year old dog killers are not created in a vacuum OriginalGeek Oct 2012 #22

Yep. Sounds like a cry for help. Glimmer of Hope Oct 2012 #27

I'd say there's suspicion in the family's involvement kentauros Oct 2012 #33

I was wondering about that myself. nt. glacierbay Oct 2012 #34

my guess: he lives with alcoholic or rage-aholic parent(s) KurtNYC Oct 2012 #106

This is so not normal gollygee Oct 2012 #23

you never burnt ants through a magnifying glass as a kid? quinnox Oct 2012 #28

Kids can be brutal to things they can remove themselves emotionally from gollygee Oct 2012 #29

You wouldn't be saying this shit glacierbay Oct 2012 #31

let's just say I have personal experience quinnox Oct 2012 #38

I'm jumping to this conclusion from my 30 years as a police officer glacierbay Oct 2012 #51

+1. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #132

You know darn well that his parents saw behaviour(s) previous to this underseasurveyor Oct 2012 #30

Some psychopaths are just born that way. Whovian Oct 2012 #36

I strongly disagree that they are born that way. vanlassie Oct 2012 #87

Yes, some are born that way. Nt DevonRex Oct 2012 #100

Sociopath, meet your next serial killer :(n/t arthritisR_US Oct 2012 #49

Which is his other hobby, bed-wetting or fire-setting? Tom Ripley Oct 2012 #56

Future Dexter in the making? Initech Oct 2012 #58

well considering many Americans think a show about a quirky serial killer is FUN... progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #62

Good point. At least Dexter has a moral code... Initech Oct 2012 #63

Is that what it's about? I guess I shouldn't be surprised. n/t Egalitarian Thug Oct 2012 #65

Future Dahmer maybe. Incitatus Oct 2012 #73

That is how he got started actually. Initech Oct 2012 #79

This child needs some serious love. KurtNYC Oct 2012 #67

He can spend the night at your house. alphafemale Oct 2012 #70

Did that feel good? KurtNYC Oct 2012 #72

He hung up his pet dog by its neck because he wanted to watch it die. No way I'd embrace that. alphafemale Oct 2012 #77

Love doesn't fix psychopathy. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #85

My guess is that he experienced, and in the process learned, this type of behavior KurtNYC Oct 2012 #88

I seem to remember people mocking Senator Frist for making medical diagnosis from afar mythology Oct 2012 #89

You are absolutely corect. nt darkangel218 Oct 2012 #112

That boy is in serious need of mental health care slackmaster Oct 2012 #68

Children who harm animals grow up to be serial killers. Bake Oct 2012 #74

Why, I never knew there were so many experts in adolescent psych. dev. on DU! markpkessinger Oct 2012 #80

thank you quinnox Oct 2012 #86

Thank you. I wish I could rec this response 1,000,000 times and then 1 more for coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #116

I want this kid locked up for life glacierbay Oct 2012 #119

The last time I checked, the sentence for animal cruelty was not coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #120

WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?! jorno67 Oct 2012 #121

Scary, ain't it? glacierbay Oct 2012 #123

yeah to think that it is normal for kids to kill their pets... jorno67 Oct 2012 #125

A frog is not like a pet glacierbay Oct 2012 #122

If you truly mean this, you have issues of your own. hifiguy Oct 2012 #136

I grant you that killing a pet strikes me as over-the-top (thereby explaining why coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #137

+1. i also never knew that 'lock the kid up & throw away the key' was the new democratic normal. HiPointDem Oct 2012 #139

Kids like this punk usually become adult sociopaths/psychopaths. Odin2005 Oct 2012 #82

That hurts for so many reasons. graywarrior Oct 2012 #84

somebody should get equally mad at the kid... BlueMan Votes Oct 2012 #90

Have you considered the possibility that someone already has and that is why he is like he is? lonestarnot Oct 2012 #92

if somebody already had- he wouldn't have been around to kill the dog. BlueMan Votes Oct 2012 #97

So you would advocate to kill the 12 year old. Yes we see why you are like you are by your own lonestarnot Oct 2012 #104

oh well... BlueMan Votes Oct 2012 #124

12 is old enough, i thought he would turn out to be like 8 . but the Kid is on his way to doing a JI7 Oct 2012 #93

Anybody else wonder if...... AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #95

Dahmer, Bundy and Chimpy Bush hifiguy Oct 2012 #105

Yeah, but both Bundy and Dahmer were still abused as children. AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #134

George W Bush liked to kill animals B Calm Oct 2012 #96

why didn't the 911 caller and other "people" take the hanging dog off the doorknob?!!! Sunlei Oct 2012 #98

horrible story Liberal_in_LA Oct 2012 #114

While JonLP24 Oct 2012 #127

In my opinion glacierbay Oct 2012 #130

I'm just saying JonLP24 Oct 2012 #133

I'm not disagreeing with you for the most part glacierbay Oct 2012 #135

Look for him on the GOP ticket in 2036 KamaAina Oct 2012 #129

Serial killer Hometown Slice Oct 2012 #140

The next Jeffrey Dahmer. n/t RiffRandell Oct 2012 #141