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41. Russia used active measures on both sides since 2014

Wed May 18, 2022, 05:38 PM

May 2022

They’ll tell the left that Ukraine has nazis but will turn around and blame the situation in Ukraine on Jewish oligarchs for the right wing. They were probably more effective in influencing the right wing based on the 2016 election results.

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Serious question: Was former DUer Catherina some sort of Russian disinfo op? [View all] Tommy Carcetti May 2022 OP

I remember I looked at her Twitter account back then and there were a bunch of tweets posted in JoanofArgh May 2022 #1

i think you have a good point. It seems to be a russian plotter samsingh May 2022 #2

Probably a dupe AZProgressive May 2022 #3

We aren't allowed to call them out in real time. LakeArenal May 2022 #4

I was wondering Meowmee May 2022 #8

There are many trolls here CrackityJones75 May 2022 #134

That was my impression as well. Meowmee May 2022 #135

I've been called a troll, paid by David Brock, a Republican, wealthy, stupid, because I betsuni May 2022 #136

The really good, professional trolls PatSeg May 2022 #154

Yes true Meowmee May 2022 #173

Yes PatSeg May 2022 #181

Hmmm. I'd always thought that might be the case. hlthe2b May 2022 #14

I trashed the term after a while. Scrivener7 May 2022 #45

So did I canetoad May 2022 #89

Oh, so that guy was "wypipo" guy? Tommy Carcetti May 2022 #49

I'm still laughing my ass off about that "drama." hunter May 2022 #58

I did not know that Effete Snob May 2022 #29

What?! Starfish Saver and Effie Black were the same?!? intheflow May 2022 #32

They attacked everything I posted. kentuck May 2022 #149

I Didn't Either RobinA May 2022 #167

woah catsudon May 2022 #52

You might try the search engine. I think the thread by Earl G was pinned. LakeArenal May 2022 #54

yikes catsudon May 2022 #75

Or many people. hamsterjill May 2022 #60

Yep. That's how it worked. They knew how far to push to get disagreements an alert LakeArenal May 2022 #62

Accounts liek that can also be shared accounts obamanut2012 May 2022 #160

Exactly. hamsterjill May 2022 #165

I had a post hidden when I called Starfish Saver on its BS. Roisin Ni Fiachra May 2022 #180

Meta! Iggo May 2022 #5

I confess: I find meta fascinating. Remember the meta forum? That Scrivener7 May 2022 #50

At times it was more like a collapsed septic tank... hunter May 2022 #64

Sputter! Scrivener7 May 2022 #67

That whole experiment was fascinating...and hilarious! Iggo May 2022 #68

I kind of miss it. Scrivener7 May 2022 #70

It was adddictive. Often toxic, but addictive. hlthe2b May 2022 #76

It was. They were right to can it. But it was interesting while it lasted. Scrivener7 May 2022 #116

I confess obamanut2012 May 2022 #161

There are pootpoot trolls all over the Internet alphafemale May 2022 #6

I think we have collectively learned something Hekate May 2022 #88

e gods.. look at that line up of fans.. Cha May 2022 #7

I generally notice names I disagree with AZSkiffyGeek May 2022 #19

Exactly.. a glaring reminder.. So Grateful! Cha May 2022 #22

Hi Cha DURHAM D May 2022 #20

Oh yeah... I noticed with Cha May 2022 #24

+1000 Nixie May 2022 #26

Although in fairness, DU crashed on election night in 2016 and a lot of accounts got crunched meadowlander May 2022 #81

Mine got crunched, yagotme May 2022 #94

A lot of the names I recognized ended up at JPR AZSkiffyGeek May 2022 #119

A lot of people of that type noisily refused to vote for Hillary in the GE, Hortensis May 2022 #84

They hated Pres. Obama with a passion, Cha mcar May 2022 #111

That shocked me. Everyone was united in opposition to the Bush administration, but some people betsuni May 2022 #122

I joined DU because I wanted to elect Democrats... LeftInTX May 2022 #168

Yeah, I know.. I left for 2 years Cha May 2022 #170

And there others who sneak in here now from time to time relayerbob May 2022 #9

Either that or an ignorant dupe. Elessar Zappa May 2022 #10

Kicking for visibility SheltieLover May 2022 #11

I barely remember her, but if she was a troll - she wasn't the first and won't be the last. BlackSkimmer May 2022 #12

Maybe Catherine wasn't even a real person. A bot or a Macedonian troll. Budi May 2022 #13

There are legitimate leftists that use the term. Caliman73 May 2022 #16

Yes, but defending Putin isn't a legitimate leftist position iemanja May 2022 #27

100% correct. Caliman73 May 2022 #47

His reach is thankfully shorter because of our NATO alliance Budi May 2022 #34

Good post. I would take exception to one thing scipan May 2022 #74

Seeding MSM with such positions goes back several decades bucolic_frolic May 2022 #15

I think it was pretty obvious the poster wasn't real obamanut2012 May 2022 #17

I remember her well. She had quite the following here and she was intelligent, but... hlthe2b May 2022 #18

I noticed that the overwhelming majority Wednesdays May 2022 #21

And the bulk seemed to have disappeared right after Clinton won the nomination... AZSkiffyGeek May 2022 #25

It's nice to feel important, but DU does not drive politics in the outside world. brooklynite May 2022 #23

The Russians try to sway opinion iemanja May 2022 #28

In 2014 and 2015, it was rather obvious. Tommy Carcetti May 2022 #30

Russia used active measures on both sides since 2014 AZProgressive May 2022 #41

You started an intriguing and valuable thread, Tommy C. Thanks. Hekate May 2022 #92

THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 If Trial balloons agro here they agro EVERYWHERE. That's not small time uponit7771 May 2022 #102

Yes. At first glance it is hard to think why they would target both the extremist RW and hlthe2b May 2022 #130

Both groups share a common hatred... OneGrassRoot May 2022 #137

Why do you? W_HAMILTON May 2022 #51

Bots are not a substantial investment. Caliman73 May 2022 #57

Feel free to post your assumption on a base of diminishing returns. 58Sunliner May 2022 #59

Just like any other social media outlet IronLionZion May 2022 #65

I remember a lot of pro-Russian and pro-BREXIT posts here. yardwork May 2022 #115

And pro-Calexit. The guy heading up that group IRL had his office in Russia, acc to the LA Times... Hekate May 2022 #145

I forgot about them! Just ridiculous. yardwork May 2022 #174

The hammer and sickle in the avatar moondust May 2022 #31

Yup, that kinda makes ya ask, Why would anyone use that as their logo? Budi May 2022 #40

I watched the Death of Stalin last night Sympthsical May 2022 #33

Isn't that such a good movie??? obamanut2012 May 2022 #35

I hadn't read anything about it Sympthsical May 2022 #37

Yup, vastly underrated obamanut2012 May 2022 #39

A better alternative to having them all use fake Russian accents pecosbob May 2022 #96

On Netflix? hlthe2b May 2022 #127

It's on AMC+ subscription on Amazon Prime Sympthsical May 2022 #131

Thanks! I have a 30 days left on a Comcast special for AMC+ so I will check it out. hlthe2b May 2022 #132

AMC+ via Prime obamanut2012 May 2022 #164

Such a hidden gem! egduj May 2022 #138

This Post Exposes her Twitter feed about Pres Obama & putin.. Cha May 2022 #36

That person was un-American pos. Putin push anti-American propaganda against the President rockfordfile May 2022 #44

Wow, I get the impression Kingofalldems May 2022 #48

Yeah, a sad time on DU Cha May 2022 #66

There were many Putin lovers here in those days mcar May 2022 #38

I know LeftInTX May 2022 #110

I remember her! kentuck May 2022 #42

I mean...maybe? Tommy Carcetti May 2022 #46

Yikes Hekate May 2022 #87

I need to take some time to remind myself of why I posted that and what it was about, bigtree May 2022 #91

I was linking to Catherina's response, not your OP Tommy Carcetti May 2022 #97

maybe because my post was dragged into this troll hunt bigtree May 2022 #105

It was in no way meant to be an attack on you. Or anyone else who responded to your post. Tommy Carcetti May 2022 #107

Would not surprise me. shrike3 May 2022 #43

Even though I check in with DU daily I don't recall Catherina. SleeplessinSoCal May 2022 #53

(Examining my scars: ) - Yip, found a couple or three from flamefests she coordinated. UTUSN May 2022 #55

Good riddance! LiberalFighter May 2022 #56

I'm curious rockfordfile May 2022 #61

She had conversations that weren't about international politics muriel_volestrangler May 2022 #63

Interesting. Nt Tommy Carcetti May 2022 #79

Slightly off topic, but in the same realm... LiberatedUSA May 2022 #69

That thread is like the opening lineup for Jackpine Radicals. Scrivener7 May 2022 #71

That guy was so obnoxious. Tommy Carcetti May 2022 #83

When I first joined DU he was popular and I never knew what the hell was funny betsuni May 2022 #125

Gawd. I had to train myself to not even look at his posts. Just another character in the 'hood, tho. Hekate May 2022 #141

One of those situations where I really should've blocked them AZSkiffyGeek May 2022 #155

I hate blocking people (tho I have done so) because then subthreads disappear too Hekate May 2022 #158

The only ones I have blocked are posters who spam AZSkiffyGeek May 2022 #159

You're on a roll lately with the archaeological finds. Harker May 2022 #72

I'm not trying to make it a regular thing. Tommy Carcetti May 2022 #172

I appreciate your thoughtfulness in replying. Harker May 2022 #175

And FWIW, Catherina was pushing Hillary's emails and the hacking thereof pretty hard. Tommy Carcetti May 2022 #186

Gads. Harker May 2022 #187

Wow! Joinfortmill May 2022 #73

Well, they lasted that many years on DU without getting the boot so they must not have been too yaesu May 2022 #77

I remember the name (back when I was simply BlueCheese) BlueCheeseAgain May 2022 #78

Catherina who? Dave says May 2022 #80

I remember someone once posted a bunch of photos of North Korea BradAllison May 2022 #106

That person broke the record for repeating the magic word "neoliberal." betsuni May 2022 #82

Yes. The real clue to her following was anti-Democratic propaganda, Hortensis May 2022 #86

I don't remember her as being anti-democratic, she was anti-American imperialism Arazi May 2022 #95

Well, there are a lot of "influencers" whose schtick is undermining Democrats, Hortensis May 2022 #103

Very interesting, Tommy C. I guess we'll watch developments... Hekate May 2022 #85

I was thinking the same thing, along with a few of her fan club. MerryBlooms May 2022 #90

Excellent question msfiddlestix May 2022 #93

Post removed Post removed May 2022 #98

And you are? Hekate May 2022 #99

Post removed Post removed May 2022 #109

That was quick, Cunoze! Wonder what your reply was before you were PPR'd. Hekate May 2022 #112

Don't ya just hate it when you miss seeing the comment? hlthe2b May 2022 #128

There was a lot on DU in the early 2010s that smelled Russian Recursion May 2022 #100

A lot of the real Russians gave themselves away DFW May 2022 #171

This looks more like hard left ranting Renew Deal May 2022 #101

Who remembers nadinbrzezinski ??? BradAllison May 2022 #104

Journo Nadin? Scrivener7 May 2022 #113

I follow her on Twitter AZProgressive May 2022 #114

I didn't think she was Pro Russian per se BradAllison May 2022 #184

Can one really forget her? GP6971 May 2022 #117

I just randomly ran across her on Twitter AZSkiffyGeek May 2022 #118

I remember her ... one time we traded info on animals Raine May 2022 #120

Who could forget Nads? N/T Texasgal May 2022 #124

My favorite! betsuni May 2022 #126

The journalist with the East County Times treestar May 2022 #142

I'd forgotten about the government agents cosplaying at Comic Con! AZSkiffyGeek May 2022 #156

Oh it was windmills! BradAllison May 2022 #185

Okay you guys. I used to enjoy interacting with her, until something happened ... Hekate May 2022 #146

oh god no obamanut2012 May 2022 #162

There were many posters who were like her on DU LeftInTX May 2022 #108

Some us learned Russian not only because of us thinking it was cool DFW May 2022 #133

Understand completely. Some in my generation had the curiosity for languages & cultures & music Hekate May 2022 #140

There are people who learn it just to read the poetry in the original treestar May 2022 #144

People's opinion of Russia has changed over the years... kentuck May 2022 #147

Actually, poor Romney made a Freudian slip and said "USSR"--I think that's what got him mocked Hekate May 2022 #151

They are not communists or socialists, they love Russian autocrats obamanut2012 May 2022 #163

I'm talking "old school" LeftInTX May 2022 #166

I don't recall her, I guess I never interacted with her. nt Raine May 2022 #121

Ha! I remember some of those Putin fans1 Coventina May 2022 #123

It's really odd that I have absolutely no memory of her. Crunchy Frog May 2022 #129

If she was a Russian/other troll/disruptor, why would she voluntarily quit DU Roisin Ni Fiachra May 2022 #139

Does anyone remember Carlos Jiacinto? kentuck May 2022 #143

Good times, good times Hekate May 2022 #148

Yes! XanaDUer2 May 2022 #152

I remember him, yes. n/t Coventina May 2022 #169

Oh yes, I remember him. I think that Raine May 2022 #176

This is the first I've heard of her. N/t NNadir May 2022 #150

Here's a thread of her directing people to RT (Russia Today), adding "I don't watch the MSM" Noahv May 2022 #153

+1 dalton99a May 2022 #177

Absolutely an operative. Iterate May 2022 #157

My troll antenna goes up... kentuck May 2022 #178

Back then I concluded that Catherina was a man. Tanuki May 2022 #179

Pretending to be a woman is common among trolls Noahv May 2022 #182

I always thought it might have been a reference to Catherina (Catherine) the Great. Tommy Carcetti May 2022 #183