In my opinion, the entire Jan. 6th investigation comes down to this one piece of evidence.

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26. Except for the facts, you've nailed it

Was too busy to research and reply yesterday when this was a live thread. But you trot this argument out on a regular basis, so am dropping this in so I have the link readily at hand.

You claim here, and have claimed elsewhere, that the fake certificates of ascertainment were not really fraud because of the "if you don't accept the real electors, we're here" disclaimer.

You are 29% right.

There were seven states that submitted ersatz certificates of ascertainment. Of those, New Mexico and Pennsylvania used the conditional language on which you rely to absolve culpability. Five did not: Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, and Wisconsin.

The documents are here: https://www.americanoversight.org/american-oversight-obtains-seven-phony-certificates-of-pro-trump-electors

Now you can read all of them. (It is surpassing strange that you make such a flat assertion while admitting that you've not read what you purport to be proclaiming on.) Feel free to correct me if I've miscounted.

I have, honestly, no idea what your both-sides bit about 2017 challenges is supposed to add to the mix. Did any Senator join a Representative's challenge? Were the proceedings delayed while the challenges were debated? Can you see even a tiny bit of difference between the cases?