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RobinA

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21. Not This

Wed May 25, 2022, 08:27 AM

May 2022

Saying that some people don't turn bad after a godawful upbringing (or whatever) so this kid should have been fine is not an valid argument. Not everybody reacts the same way to stressors. This kid, among many others, acted out in a big way. It's not an excuse, it's a reason. If we don't look at bullying/mental health/trauma as a part of the equation (among many other things) we will never solve this problem. It's not one thing, it's the intersection of many.

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shooter bullied over poverty, appearance, clothing, called gay slurs, was aggressive towards women [View all] Demovictory9 May 2022 OP

I saw those text messages earlier... LeftInTX May 2022 #1

Interesting... Mike Nelson May 2022 #2

Yes LeftInTX May 2022 #3

There were warning signs North Shore Chicago May 2022 #4

WaPo article said he got bullied in JoanofArgh May 2022 #5

That could explain Tickle May 2022 #6

He went to the elementary school...not the high school with a high powered rifle and mowed Demsrule86 May 2022 #31

If he was poor and couldn't afford clothing? Throck May 2022 #7

Damn straight, and thank you! raging moderate May 2022 #9

This. It wasn't caused by people being mean to him, it wasn't caused by anything Scrivener7 May 2022 #19

Not This RobinA May 2022 #21

Agree! Edim May 2022 #22

Thank you! radicalleft May 2022 #34

No, it's not inthewind21 May 2022 #56

We've had 288 school shootings this year. The next most numerous was in Mexico. They had EIGHT. Scrivener7 May 2022 #67

Or at least go with Anderson Fla_Democrat May 2022 #10

He had what the news described as a military like 'long gun'...sound like some sort of . He Demsrule86 May 2022 #33

There are hundreds of millions of poor people across this planet malaise May 2022 #60

Poor in America is not the same as poor in other countries. Throck May 2022 #61

People Control, Not Gun Control Sancho May 2022 #8

That's all well and good but kacekwl May 2022 #25

Bullshit...sorry the only way to end this nightmare is to get guns off the streets. I don't Demsrule86 May 2022 #36

And yet the history of gun violence in other countries shows... myccrider May 2022 #47

Having a strict license to have access to guns and ammunition does not preclude restrictions on guns Sancho May 2022 #51

I think we're in basic agreement. myccrider May 2022 #66

Actually alot of people have difficulty with getting an ID or license fescuerescue May 2022 #65

I hate bullies. I am 80 and grew up with bullies at all levels in school. I was poor and so were Samrob May 2022 #11

Not.. DemUnleashed May 2022 #12

It overwhelming is because of the parents Cosmocat May 2022 #13

It... DemUnleashed May 2022 #14

Certainly not exclusively so dsc May 2022 #15

Interesting DemUnleashed May 2022 #20

IIRC, a major plot point in "The Squid Game" Wednesdays May 2022 #55

A close friend grew up in Japan. xmas74 May 2022 #29

You may need a refresher reading of Lord of the Flies JHB May 2022 #35

You are excusing him... he was bullied at high school...so he takes an automatic weapon Demsrule86 May 2022 #38

I am a former pediatric speech-language pathologist. phylny May 2022 #45

I just saw a news story about how this sort of thing is caused by teen boys being betsuni May 2022 #16

Bull shit and more bullshit is exactly right. I want to know how he got that gun and Demsrule86 May 2022 #39

OK. Know what? I don't give a shit that people were mean to him. Scrivener7 May 2022 #17

I hope he suffered a great deal personally...and I hope there is a God and he is burning for Demsrule86 May 2022 #40

You mean, the MURDERER? Calling him a shooter is too benign. He's a murderer. Novara May 2022 #18

Bullying has pushed many to suicide. And some to homicide Roland99 May 2022 #23

Boo hoo...I don't give a crap. He is a murdering scumbag. Demsrule86 May 2022 #41

Bullying is a HUGE problem in Japan. betsuni May 2022 #52

That is true. Demsrule86 May 2022 #58

From reading all of this & responses.... AntivaxHunters May 2022 #24

We need to stop the bullying narrative. Also Harris & Klebold weren't bullied. Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #26

Bullying is a problem AntivaxHunters May 2022 #27

It's a problem. It isn't causing school shooters. Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #28

It is very much true AntivaxHunters May 2022 #30

I think you misunderstood my argument. Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #32

The bullying thing is just another right wing bullshit excuse. You can buy a gun now with Demsrule86 May 2022 #43

100% agree. Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #48

Sorry I misread your post...I agree 100%. Mea Culpa mea maxima culpa. Demsrule86 May 2022 #53

Any delusion for them I guess. Demsrule86 May 2022 #59

Bullying doesn't have a damn thing to do with this. Check out EarlG's post: Scrivener7 May 2022 #42

+1 betsuni May 2022 #46

Some kids are bullied because of being different, others are because they're lower level bullies haele May 2022 #37

Haele, this is a wonderful post. And you are completely right. Demsrule86 May 2022 #44

+1 betsuni May 2022 #49

Well you may have heard it inthewind21 May 2022 #57

I don't give a damn about his life. He should only be remembered as a sinkingfeeling May 2022 #50

and n case you were wondering whether a strong anti-bullying program would have helped DBoon May 2022 #54

Well, that's depressing. crickets May 2022 #64

The shooter is 18. He wasn't bullied by those kids he killed. Samrob May 2022 #62

He was poor ellie May 2022 #63