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bluestate10

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52. The President is going to win.

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:33 PM

Oct 2012

But otherwise, you are right. Romney will lose and when he does, a bloodbath is going to ensue in the republican party. Moderates have to wrestle their party back from the extremes. or leave the republican party and form a moderate-conservative party that can attract disaffected former republicans, conservative democrats and moderate-conservative independents. An alternative to sane republicans is to join the democratic party and attempt t split it into two big centered parties that will contest future elections. I am not happy about the last option because I don't want to see the democratic party split. The extremists in the modern republican party will contest one, may be two more elections, but the party will die fast as it's aging and hate filled base dies off.

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I think we may be witnessing the demise of the GOP [View all] Hugabear Oct 2012 OP

Republicanism is already gone. It's all about who's most conservative now. LovePeacock Oct 2012 #1

Exactly. They've been in a death-spiral since '94 Scootaloo Oct 2012 #21

+1000 nt ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #34

Interesting Post WiffenPoof Oct 2012 #39

That's what I was getting at. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #59

I thought that was a brilliant analogy Risen Demon Oct 2012 #73

Bush, Jr., Palin, Romney. It's been going downhill for a while. randome Oct 2012 #2

No, the dozen or so plutocrats who own the Republican Party will never quit... Scuba Oct 2012 #3

It doesn't matter. It hasn't helped them this election. It didn't help them last. randome Oct 2012 #6

It damn sure helped them here in Wisconsin when we tried to recall Walker. Scuba Oct 2012 #11

What helped them win the Walker recall was a disorganized democratic party of Wisconsin, bluestate10 Oct 2012 #53

There's truth in what you wrote, but w/o the Koch money Walker would have lost. Scuba Oct 2012 #56

Some of them are getting real old, and not in such good physical shape. Get my crunch60 Oct 2012 #63

oh hell I've been thinking that for a long time........ barnabas63 Oct 2012 #4

I learned a big lesson from 2010 Cosmocat Oct 2012 #10

Just like Tweety says.. barnabas63 Oct 2012 #14

2010 happened because Democratic voters LET IT HAPPEN. Scootaloo Oct 2012 #27

That's the truth Cosmocat Oct 2012 #41

Oh bullshit. Turnout was normal for midterm. The Obama wave type voters crapped out TheKentuckian Oct 2012 #51

RABBLE RABBLE CENTRISTS RABBLE RABBLE Scootaloo Oct 2012 #60

My State of Oregon broke turn out records in 2010...why didn't yours? Bluenorthwest Oct 2012 #69

If someone helped Republican fuckheads get into office... Scootaloo Oct 2012 #78

Points I can't refute...centrist...ignore context to hammer away at bogus point...appeal to street TheKentuckian Nov 2012 #79

The DU head in the sand crowd was led by Ed Schultz and Cenk. I could not believe bluestate10 Oct 2012 #54

Exactly, I've seen countless "Liberalism is dead" claims out there Puzzledtraveller Oct 2012 #72

Actually... kentuck Oct 2012 #5

Amen MFrohike Oct 2012 #62

The rotund Governor of NJ understands this implicity SubgeniusHasSlack Oct 2012 #7

I don't think that is the case, at all Cosmocat Oct 2012 #15

I hope you're right /eom Cigar11 Oct 2012 #8

The crazy- ruffburr Oct 2012 #9

Not so fast my friend oswaldactedalone Oct 2012 #12

The alternative might be enough of a motivater... barnabas63 Oct 2012 #26

In the past, this kind of thing has ended one of three ways. jeff47 Oct 2012 #49

If that were true edhopper Oct 2012 #13

+1,000,000 Cosmocat Oct 2012 #16

I'm not sure about the demise of the pugs ItsTheMediaStupid Oct 2012 #18

Mostly likely true edhopper Oct 2012 #23

Of course the popular vote counts for something. former9thward Oct 2012 #58

Then there is also the Ron Paul part of the party Johonny Oct 2012 #17

Let's hope so mil_5529dem Oct 2012 #19

These morons won elections a half century ago screaming Cosmocat Oct 2012 #20

No, they didn't. jeff47 Oct 2012 #50

+1. Repubs were not always Rethugs. reformist2 Oct 2012 #66

Whatever wing of the party it was 50 years ago Cosmocat Oct 2012 #76

Point being it wasn't a wing of the party 50 years ago jeff47 Oct 2012 #77

I hope you're right. The party of Ike and Gerald Ford is long gone. Faygo Kid Oct 2012 #22

My mom said the same thing... slackmaster Oct 2012 #24

That was when they were taken over by the idealogues. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #30

Not quite. The GOP platform of 1976 was the last one with unequivocal support for the ERA... slackmaster Oct 2012 #42

doubtful. BlueMan Votes Oct 2012 #25

That's going to last until 2015 after the next midterms then they'll simmer down and go after the craigmatic Oct 2012 #32

HAHA! Republicans are experiencing that morning after Coyote Ugly Syndrome. Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #28

Congrats! Doctor_J Oct 2012 #29

In a 2 party system one party can't die it can only become recessive. craigmatic Oct 2012 #31

Tell that to a Whig Motown_Johnny Oct 2012 #33

That was before all the really big money entered politics. craigmatic Oct 2012 #48

Remember Tom Delay tried to destroy the Dems LeftInTX Oct 2012 #40

Actually Clinton and Obama are Ike republicans because of how far we've moved right. craigmatic Oct 2012 #47

....and they will be reborn. sibelian Oct 2012 #35

We hear this monthly. But they are still here! Logical Oct 2012 #36

There will be an internal battle for the soul of the republican party. ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #37

Republicans like being republican...the open racism, guns, homophobia...general ignorance... Evasporque Oct 2012 #38

We can only hope ellie Oct 2012 #43

Wish it were so, but the two party system is durable Spike89 Oct 2012 #44

When Fox is perceived as the voice of losing mick063 Oct 2012 #45

But they still have all the money!! and with money comes power, they will not go away RepublicansRZombies Oct 2012 #46

And the media Doctor_J Oct 2012 #65

The President is going to win. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #52

It's a generational thing... WCGreen Oct 2012 #55

That's what we thought in 2008. I think it's quite the opposite. MrSlayer Oct 2012 #57

Kucinich was not elected to Congress until 1997. Bluenorthwest Oct 2012 #71

Just using his political philosophy as an example. MrSlayer Oct 2012 #74

I think both have happened liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #75

I sure hope we are at least seeing the demise of the tea party candidates liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #61

The Southern Strategy LeftInTX Oct 2012 #64

Not "as we currently know it", rather "as we knew it 15 years ago". The GOP will continue AlinPA Oct 2012 #67

the sooner the better spanone Oct 2012 #68

K&R, Very nicely said. Whovian Oct 2012 #70