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Atticus

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Thu May 26, 2022, 03:20 PM May 2022

Again I have watched a press conference held in Uvalde, Texas by law enforcement and [View all]

again I find it infuriating. This guy, Victor Escalon, just spent several minutes telling us how horrible the shooting was and then more minutes during which he DIRECTLY CONTRADICTED what his uniformed counterpart told us this morning.

THIS MORNING the story was that there was an armed school security officer plus two cops who "engaged" the shooter outside the school and FOLLOWED HIM INSIDE, where he "barricaded himself inside a classroom" and began killing kids. NOW, ---are you sitting down?---there was NO school security officer present, cops did not "engage" the shooter inside until he'd been there for four minutes and after 12 MINUTES passed between the shooter wrecking his pickup and when he entered the school!

What happened during those 12 minutes? They don't know. They're "investigating".

Was the door locked? They don't know: they're "investigating".

THIS MORNING, the shooter was inside for "40 minutes, maybe as much as an hour" before he was shot and killed. NOW, the border patrol officers, who killed the shooter, did not ARRIVE for an hour.

And, some seriously wounded kids who were lying inside BLEEDING during this hour LATER DIED! That hour was what trauma medics call the "Golden Hour"---during which seriously wounded victims must be treated if they are to survive.

This morning I said that "something" was being concealed. It now appears that that "something" is gross incompetence and cowardice.


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They were mostly hanging back, hoping the shooter ran out of ammo or shot himself. Wingus Dingus May 2022 #1
They don't realize that most of the mass shooters who kill themselves don't do it until halfulglas May 2022 #4
Why weren't cops trained as well as kids & staff? BadgerMom May 2022 #18
yesterday, when rumors started circulating lapfog_1 May 2022 #2
Sounds like INCOMPETENCE being 'concealed.' elleng May 2022 #3
You have to understand Uvalde. hamsterjill May 2022 #5
That's why what Beto did was so important. BadgerMom May 2022 #19
Oh absolutely. hamsterjill May 2022 #21
Thanks! BadgerMom May 2022 #22
He should propose a comprehensive plan. BrightKnight May 2022 #53
I don't know much about Uvalde, but sounds like "good ole boy" LeftInTX May 2022 #23
All are "good ole boy". hamsterjill May 2022 #31
It sounds like the police are mainly to keep the Latinos in their place IronLionZion May 2022 #40
Except the majority of the police are Latino themselves. hamsterjill May 2022 #41
That's disappointing IronLionZion May 2022 #44
The cops outside very likely had no training in what to do under the... TreasonousBastard May 2022 #6
I agree there is much we do not know. Whose fault is that? And, what we "knew" this Atticus May 2022 #8
+1 BadgerMom May 2022 #20
We DO know this much for ABSOLUTE fact: ret5hd May 2022 #12
I never cared for the 'defund the police' slogan, but I'm sure that teachers would like some pay 70sEraVet May 2022 #27
we need the police true llashram May 2022 #38
I highly doubt they defunded the police in that area IronLionZion May 2022 #45
Of course they didn't "defund" them... ret5hd May 2022 #47
Sorry they are not just any other group of people facing a new situation JanMichael May 2022 #17
+++ llashram May 2022 #39
no you are wrong llashram May 2022 #33
"The cops outside very likely had no training in what to do..." thucythucy May 2022 #51
It's become increasingly evident that they screwed up big time - Ocelot II May 2022 #7
More on Escalon Nevilledog May 2022 #9
And that's when I started yelling at the tv. Lars39 May 2022 #10
Heads need to fucking roll Novara May 2022 #11
Heads won't roll - these motherfuckers will be receiving awards and getting promotions. Probatim May 2022 #15
NOW inthewind21 May 2022 #13
Sounds like that local police F'ed up badly kimbutgar May 2022 #14
After all is said and done, my guess is that Torchlight May 2022 #16
barney fifes llashram May 2022 #35
FBI needs to take over. spanone May 2022 #24
Under Wray? 3825-87867 May 2022 #26
Justice Department Won't Charge FBI Agents in Nassar Case Failures Chuuku Davis May 2022 #48
Change their views on guns? 3825-87867 May 2022 #25
School Security is for the most part, Security Theatre PurgedVoter May 2022 #28
I think we might ought to have an investigation that doesn't Liberal In Texas May 2022 #29
Lies are still lies......and they don't want to tell the truth, so they lie...Just like Trump!! Stuart G May 2022 #30
Holy f******** f**** f****!!! TeamProg May 2022 #32
But we must, must send US Marshals to protect our wimpy SC judges homes from peaceful Ziggysmom May 2022 #34
They know here in a day or two there will be another mass slaughterhouse shooting Emile May 2022 #36
It's a grand pity that donald tRump wasn't there........... lastlib May 2022 #37
Reform the police, record the police, ask uncomfortable questions IronLionZion May 2022 #42
Amen. BComplex May 2022 #46
Sounds to me Jilly_in_VA May 2022 #43
The standard response to an active shooter is get anything BrightKnight May 2022 #49
Right jcgoldie May 2022 #50
NPR says it was an hour. iemanja May 2022 #52
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