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ancianita

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29. It's not. I'm saying that public schools must not be stigmatized for the lax security we've seen
Thu May 26, 2022, 06:30 PM
May 2022

lead to tragic deaths of innocents, and I offer a successful model that's worked elsewhere. People all over the country thought that what happened at Uvelda could happen to their schools, and wonder where they could otherwise school their kids safely.

CPS has invested a prevention system that's resulted in relatively safe schools.

If you want to call it a thesis, your choice. But this isn't an academic exercise. We've already seen privatized schools as "choice." Erosions of public trust have come about by corporate campaigns against public schools already, through the pretext of testing "reforms" that were designed to set schools up for failure, to justify privatizing schools; and this recent mass murder of children provides another pretext corporations can use. As for what you think is my thesis, research has already shown that privatized schools have been no better academically, or safer, than the public schools that exist. From what I've seen, they're simply another form of social division, a kind of for profit scheme to take public taxes to pay for a class and race segregated system. Bush tried his "faith based initiatives" to use of taxes to pay for religious charities, and he was about to move on to tax subsidies for religious schools.

If I have a thesis, it's that democracy is served best by democratic institutions that create spaces for public discourse and learning, like libraries, even public universities. Corporate schools as for profit businesses are not institutions of democracy.

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K&R, uponit7771 May 2022 #1
As a Canadian I cannot even believe you have to have this conversation and Bev54 May 2022 #2
As an American I ancianita May 2022 #3
If it was just scale then Canada should be about 29 school shootings during the same time period Bev54 May 2022 #8
Then you don't understand scale. You're confusing it with proportionality. ancianita May 2022 #11
Here is what I am not confused about, you are making excuses and accepting Bev54 May 2022 #12
Is that what I'm doing? And it's not just your interpretation? ancianita May 2022 #13
I don't worry about my grandchildren or myself being shot because Bev54 May 2022 #17
Then why did you even bring that up. I don't worry about my kids or grandkids, either, ancianita May 2022 #19
I said it in my very first post Bev54 May 2022 #20
I know. I read it. Why did you bring it up? ancianita May 2022 #22
A lot of activists Ex Lurker May 2022 #4
This thread isn't about activists. Your post is about flawed models, and NOT in Chicago, but in ancianita May 2022 #5
As a long time Chicagoan I will post some accurate information. former9thward May 2022 #6
While it's mostly accurate, it's not completely accurate in telling the whole safety model story. ancianita May 2022 #7
Everyone in Chicago knows Chicago has an enormous gang problem. former9thward May 2022 #9
What's that got to do with how good CPS school safety is? That's a whole different thread. ancianita May 2022 #10
Its just a bandaid. Eko May 2022 #30
Prevention is not a bandaid if prevention makes the schools areas of safety in communities. ancianita May 2022 #31
I never said it was up to the schools to change the problem. Eko May 2022 #32
Cool. ancianita May 2022 #33
It's an intelligent blue city in a blue state. ananda May 2022 #14
"No school shootings" is certainly one way to define "safety." WhiskeyGrinder May 2022 #15
Look. Don't say imperfect safety is failure. ancianita May 2022 #16
Your thesis seems to be "we need to put cops in schools so they're not privatized for being unsafe." WhiskeyGrinder May 2022 #28
It's not. I'm saying that public schools must not be stigmatized for the lax security we've seen ancianita May 2022 #29
So is the answer sarisataka May 2022 #18
Until society fixes its problems that hurt kids, it's a temporary answer. CPS doesn't have heavy ancianita May 2022 #21
I was asking if we should reevaluate sarisataka May 2022 #23
Why. What is wrong with metal detectors. They screen. You got a problem with tech screenings? ancianita May 2022 #24
Myself, no sarisataka May 2022 #25
Me, neither. ancianita May 2022 #27
Kick for viability Stuart G May 2022 #26
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