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ancianita

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31. Prevention is not a bandaid if prevention makes the schools areas of safety in communities.
Thu May 26, 2022, 07:00 PM
May 2022

The problem of mass shooters is a societal problem. It should never be up to schools to "change the problem" of society, just to teach, protect and empower future generations.

What businesses do to protect themselves is a business problem. I've seen all manner of security systems in these businesses, haven't you?

This society is what it decides to make itself. If the few, say a political minority, have a war mentality, hoard weapons and live in their own fortresses out of fear of living with difference, we're still big enough a society to move on without them. I'd never subscribe to, defer to, or enable the worst of us to define what our society is.

I'm totally with you about taking out military assault weapons. I'm all for any of the many kinds of ways to do it -- passing national background check law, further funding and empowering the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms to stop straw buyers and weapons traffickers, banning and fining and dissolving the charters of any manufacturers that make assault weapons; putting any black market sellers of assault weapons in jail, banning assault weapons sales at gun shows; ordering sheriffs to offer buy-backs of assault weapons, then house-to-house confiscations of them, then arresting any and all sheriffs who refuse to follow the law and participate in the national draw down of assault weapons.

Biden was right. When we banned assault weapons, mass shootings didn't happen; when we stopped, they tripled.

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K&R, uponit7771 May 2022 #1
As a Canadian I cannot even believe you have to have this conversation and Bev54 May 2022 #2
As an American I ancianita May 2022 #3
If it was just scale then Canada should be about 29 school shootings during the same time period Bev54 May 2022 #8
Then you don't understand scale. You're confusing it with proportionality. ancianita May 2022 #11
Here is what I am not confused about, you are making excuses and accepting Bev54 May 2022 #12
Is that what I'm doing? And it's not just your interpretation? ancianita May 2022 #13
I don't worry about my grandchildren or myself being shot because Bev54 May 2022 #17
Then why did you even bring that up. I don't worry about my kids or grandkids, either, ancianita May 2022 #19
I said it in my very first post Bev54 May 2022 #20
I know. I read it. Why did you bring it up? ancianita May 2022 #22
A lot of activists Ex Lurker May 2022 #4
This thread isn't about activists. Your post is about flawed models, and NOT in Chicago, but in ancianita May 2022 #5
As a long time Chicagoan I will post some accurate information. former9thward May 2022 #6
While it's mostly accurate, it's not completely accurate in telling the whole safety model story. ancianita May 2022 #7
Everyone in Chicago knows Chicago has an enormous gang problem. former9thward May 2022 #9
What's that got to do with how good CPS school safety is? That's a whole different thread. ancianita May 2022 #10
Its just a bandaid. Eko May 2022 #30
Prevention is not a bandaid if prevention makes the schools areas of safety in communities. ancianita May 2022 #31
I never said it was up to the schools to change the problem. Eko May 2022 #32
Cool. ancianita May 2022 #33
It's an intelligent blue city in a blue state. ananda May 2022 #14
"No school shootings" is certainly one way to define "safety." WhiskeyGrinder May 2022 #15
Look. Don't say imperfect safety is failure. ancianita May 2022 #16
Your thesis seems to be "we need to put cops in schools so they're not privatized for being unsafe." WhiskeyGrinder May 2022 #28
It's not. I'm saying that public schools must not be stigmatized for the lax security we've seen ancianita May 2022 #29
So is the answer sarisataka May 2022 #18
Until society fixes its problems that hurt kids, it's a temporary answer. CPS doesn't have heavy ancianita May 2022 #21
I was asking if we should reevaluate sarisataka May 2022 #23
Why. What is wrong with metal detectors. They screen. You got a problem with tech screenings? ancianita May 2022 #24
Myself, no sarisataka May 2022 #25
Me, neither. ancianita May 2022 #27
Kick for viability Stuart G May 2022 #26
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