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ripcord

(5,553 posts) Wed Jun 1, 2022, 09:53 AM Jun 2022

You can pass all the gun regulation you want but it won't matter [View all]

Conservative law enforcement will just consider their areas to be firearms sanctuaries where federal gun laws aren't enforced.

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You can pass all the gun regulation you want but it won't matter [View all] ripcord Jun 2022 OP

Well this should be interesting sarisataka Jun 2022 #1

Many County Sherriffs have already stated as much in the past. Thomas Hurt Jun 2022 #2

I wonder how many mass shootings need to happen in their jurisdictions before they change their tune sboatcar Jun 2022 #3

My guess would be "1"...depending on who the victim was. ret5hd Jun 2022 #4

Local and state governments already ignore many federal laws madville Jun 2022 #16

I don't doubt that is what would happen sarisataka Jun 2022 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #5

So do nothing....? LakeArenal Jun 2022 #6

That's been our "go to" for decades gratuitous Jun 2022 #32

Exactly. LakeArenal Jun 2022 #35

That's why I think "gun insurance" instead. It's about standards, violations and self regulation. TigressDem Jun 2022 #7

Gun insurance like car insurance won't cover illegal acts ripcord Jun 2022 #8

Sure it does. TigressDem Jun 2022 #11

Who enforces this new insurance requirement? madville Jun 2022 #15

I suspect the violations would be discovered after incidents. Gore1FL Jun 2022 #24

Exactly. TigressDem Jun 2022 #43

proof of insurance before buying a gun or ammo moonshinegnomie Jun 2022 #28

How do we do it for cars? People come into the DMV and if they are caught driving without... TigressDem Jun 2022 #36

So what stops an insurance company from selling a barebones liability policy NickB79 Jun 2022 #47

It still puts the gun owner in a position of being responsible for their behavior TigressDem Jun 2022 #66

Any law enforcement, gun dealer or gun club that deals with gun owners. TigressDem Jun 2022 #40

Will the insurance agency be liable if a client commits a crime? NickB79 Jun 2022 #37

No they would not be liable sarisataka Jun 2022 #41

It changes the way we work with gun owners. TigressDem Jun 2022 #67

I'm lost here - what type of claim could one possibly file for? taxi Jun 2022 #13

The idea behind insurance is that madville Jun 2022 #17

For those reasons it would be a hard sell. taxi Jun 2022 #22

Plus requiring insurance premiums is like a poll tax madville Jun 2022 #23

You probably didn't read the part about being able to write off the premiums at years end. TigressDem Jun 2022 #46

If someone doesn't itemize deductions madville Jun 2022 #53

Happens in life for many things. TigressDem Jun 2022 #68

What makes you think that? Zeitghost Jun 2022 #56

Because auto insurance companies regularly madville Jun 2022 #59

When they do that Zeitghost Jun 2022 #60

It's about gun safety education and accountability. TigressDem Jun 2022 #70

At renewal, you typically have to fill out forms and supply verification. TigressDem Jun 2022 #69

So some idiot is shooting up in the air on 4th of July. Bullet comes down kills your dog. TigressDem Jun 2022 #38

Does gun liability pay the dog's owner for it's death? NickB79 Jun 2022 #49

Insurance facilitates it without major court involvement. TigressDem Jun 2022 #64

There are two areas - areas where discharging a firearm is illegal and areas where it is not taxi Jun 2022 #62

Well, it would be illegal to discharge firearms for nepharious purposes per national law. TigressDem Jun 2022 #65

Making a national law is maybe the biggest hurdle. taxi Jun 2022 #73

We don't know who has or where millions of guns are. Kaleva Jun 2022 #27

You don't necessarily "make them" but if they use their gun without insurance, it can be confiscated TigressDem Jun 2022 #39

I'm wondering if local LEO in all the red areas would confiscate any guns for lack of insurance? Kaleva Jun 2022 #44

Well, they would now. Waterpark has to have insurance in case someone drowns, but not a gun range? TigressDem Jun 2022 #45

Unlike many here, I did not give Alec Baldwin a pass Kaleva Jun 2022 #57

Gun ranges are businesses and are regulated by state laws. Straw Man Jun 2022 #71

But their company cars are set up with insurance according to Federal requirements TigressDem Jun 2022 #75

... MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2022 #74

Yes, it is not just about guns. It is about the will of the American people. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #9

Hire More Feds, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2022 #10

Thank you, Magistrate. Defeatism gets us nowhere. nt crickets Jun 2022 #12

They would definitely have to madville Jun 2022 #19

Are local sheriff's required to enforce federal laws? They can just ignore them. Kaleva Jun 2022 #26

Certainly They Can, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2022 #30

It will become like Prohibition then NickB79 Jun 2022 #33

Should That Occur, Sir, Arrest Corrupt Police The Magistrate Jun 2022 #42

"Not in the country at large" NickB79 Jun 2022 #48

Let Us Be Clear, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2022 #50

You greatly overestimate the power of federal law enforcement NickB79 Jun 2022 #51

Your Objections, Sir, Are All Addressable By Augmenting Forces The Magistrate Jun 2022 #54

Do you want a civil war? Ex Lurker Jun 2022 #76

Enforcing Law Is Not What Makes For Civil War, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2022 #78

We didn't arrest the mayor of Oakland for tipping off immigrants to ICE raids NickB79 Jun 2022 #52

Was A Statute Violated, Sir? The Magistrate Jun 2022 #55

"We" can't pass ANY gun regulation we want. maxsolomon Jun 2022 #14

I disagree Handler Jun 2022 #18

Just starting there, the big hurdle is madville Jun 2022 #20

And many red areas will ignore an assault weapons ban ripcord Jun 2022 #58

Assault weapons are easy to identify Handler Jun 2022 #61

Should we give up? Kingofalldems Jun 2022 #25

Similar argument that there are already so many guns out there you'd never get Liberal In Texas Jun 2022 #29

A lot of those counties have republican Sheriffs. I'd say those sheriffs are a pos. . rockfordfile Jun 2022 #31

Cool. And the feds can take over police departments. AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #34

Not to mention the High Courts. WarGamer Jun 2022 #63

We've done nothing for so long. Captain Zero Jun 2022 #72

ATF is legally capped in the amount of agents in the agency Pyryck Jun 2022 #77