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TigressDem

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7. That's why I think "gun insurance" instead. It's about standards, violations and self regulation.

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 10:05 AM

Jun 2022

We keep making the analogy to car insurance.

We insure cars because they CAN become deadly weapons if misused. But we don't insure deadly weapons so they are properly used.

And yes, it's the same thing, but if gun insurance is a national requirement, people can go up the ladder to get help.

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You can pass all the gun regulation you want but it won't matter [View all] ripcord Jun 2022 OP

Well this should be interesting sarisataka Jun 2022 #1

Many County Sherriffs have already stated as much in the past. Thomas Hurt Jun 2022 #2

I wonder how many mass shootings need to happen in their jurisdictions before they change their tune sboatcar Jun 2022 #3

My guess would be "1"...depending on who the victim was. ret5hd Jun 2022 #4

Local and state governments already ignore many federal laws madville Jun 2022 #16

I don't doubt that is what would happen sarisataka Jun 2022 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #5

So do nothing....? LakeArenal Jun 2022 #6

That's been our "go to" for decades gratuitous Jun 2022 #32

Exactly. LakeArenal Jun 2022 #35

That's why I think "gun insurance" instead. It's about standards, violations and self regulation. TigressDem Jun 2022 #7

Gun insurance like car insurance won't cover illegal acts ripcord Jun 2022 #8

Sure it does. TigressDem Jun 2022 #11

Who enforces this new insurance requirement? madville Jun 2022 #15

I suspect the violations would be discovered after incidents. Gore1FL Jun 2022 #24

Exactly. TigressDem Jun 2022 #43

proof of insurance before buying a gun or ammo moonshinegnomie Jun 2022 #28

How do we do it for cars? People come into the DMV and if they are caught driving without... TigressDem Jun 2022 #36

So what stops an insurance company from selling a barebones liability policy NickB79 Jun 2022 #47

It still puts the gun owner in a position of being responsible for their behavior TigressDem Jun 2022 #66

Any law enforcement, gun dealer or gun club that deals with gun owners. TigressDem Jun 2022 #40

Will the insurance agency be liable if a client commits a crime? NickB79 Jun 2022 #37

No they would not be liable sarisataka Jun 2022 #41

It changes the way we work with gun owners. TigressDem Jun 2022 #67

I'm lost here - what type of claim could one possibly file for? taxi Jun 2022 #13

The idea behind insurance is that madville Jun 2022 #17

For those reasons it would be a hard sell. taxi Jun 2022 #22

Plus requiring insurance premiums is like a poll tax madville Jun 2022 #23

You probably didn't read the part about being able to write off the premiums at years end. TigressDem Jun 2022 #46

If someone doesn't itemize deductions madville Jun 2022 #53

Happens in life for many things. TigressDem Jun 2022 #68

What makes you think that? Zeitghost Jun 2022 #56

Because auto insurance companies regularly madville Jun 2022 #59

When they do that Zeitghost Jun 2022 #60

It's about gun safety education and accountability. TigressDem Jun 2022 #70

At renewal, you typically have to fill out forms and supply verification. TigressDem Jun 2022 #69

So some idiot is shooting up in the air on 4th of July. Bullet comes down kills your dog. TigressDem Jun 2022 #38

Does gun liability pay the dog's owner for it's death? NickB79 Jun 2022 #49

Insurance facilitates it without major court involvement. TigressDem Jun 2022 #64

There are two areas - areas where discharging a firearm is illegal and areas where it is not taxi Jun 2022 #62

Well, it would be illegal to discharge firearms for nepharious purposes per national law. TigressDem Jun 2022 #65

Making a national law is maybe the biggest hurdle. taxi Jun 2022 #73

We don't know who has or where millions of guns are. Kaleva Jun 2022 #27

You don't necessarily "make them" but if they use their gun without insurance, it can be confiscated TigressDem Jun 2022 #39

I'm wondering if local LEO in all the red areas would confiscate any guns for lack of insurance? Kaleva Jun 2022 #44

Well, they would now. Waterpark has to have insurance in case someone drowns, but not a gun range? TigressDem Jun 2022 #45

Unlike many here, I did not give Alec Baldwin a pass Kaleva Jun 2022 #57

Gun ranges are businesses and are regulated by state laws. Straw Man Jun 2022 #71

But their company cars are set up with insurance according to Federal requirements TigressDem Jun 2022 #75

... MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2022 #74

Yes, it is not just about guns. It is about the will of the American people. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #9

Hire More Feds, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2022 #10

Thank you, Magistrate. Defeatism gets us nowhere. nt crickets Jun 2022 #12

They would definitely have to madville Jun 2022 #19

Are local sheriff's required to enforce federal laws? They can just ignore them. Kaleva Jun 2022 #26

Certainly They Can, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2022 #30

It will become like Prohibition then NickB79 Jun 2022 #33

Should That Occur, Sir, Arrest Corrupt Police The Magistrate Jun 2022 #42

"Not in the country at large" NickB79 Jun 2022 #48

Let Us Be Clear, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2022 #50

You greatly overestimate the power of federal law enforcement NickB79 Jun 2022 #51

Your Objections, Sir, Are All Addressable By Augmenting Forces The Magistrate Jun 2022 #54

Do you want a civil war? Ex Lurker Jun 2022 #76

Enforcing Law Is Not What Makes For Civil War, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2022 #78

We didn't arrest the mayor of Oakland for tipping off immigrants to ICE raids NickB79 Jun 2022 #52

Was A Statute Violated, Sir? The Magistrate Jun 2022 #55

"We" can't pass ANY gun regulation we want. maxsolomon Jun 2022 #14

I disagree Handler Jun 2022 #18

Just starting there, the big hurdle is madville Jun 2022 #20

And many red areas will ignore an assault weapons ban ripcord Jun 2022 #58

Assault weapons are easy to identify Handler Jun 2022 #61

Should we give up? Kingofalldems Jun 2022 #25

Similar argument that there are already so many guns out there you'd never get Liberal In Texas Jun 2022 #29

A lot of those counties have republican Sheriffs. I'd say those sheriffs are a pos. . rockfordfile Jun 2022 #31

Cool. And the feds can take over police departments. AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #34

Not to mention the High Courts. WarGamer Jun 2022 #63

We've done nothing for so long. Captain Zero Jun 2022 #72

ATF is legally capped in the amount of agents in the agency Pyryck Jun 2022 #77