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54. I've never cooked on an electric stove that was as good as gas.

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Sun Jun 5, 2022, 01:35 PM

Jun 2022

I would imagine an electric stove that came close would be expensive if it even exists.

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This headline from the @LATimes isn't just blatantly false and misleading; it's also the result of [View all] Celerity Jun 2022 OP

The small/portable Korean and Japanese burner/stoves use butane cans BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #1

Are those small butane aerosol cans better for the environment than natural gas? MichMan Jun 2022 #2

There are the 3 different gases BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #6

they ignore the impacts of the huge amount of concrete and steel, too. mopinko Jun 2022 #8

Absolutely true BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #12

yup. i have the aging, shuttered zion nuke plant sitting about 50 mi north of me. mopinko Jun 2022 #16

I'm 20 miles from the last nuke plant built in PA BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #23

'too cheap to meter' mopinko Jun 2022 #24

LOL @ "too cheap to meter" BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #28

Only One Problem ProfessorGAC Jun 2022 #43

However my point was BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #47

I Suppose ProfessorGAC Jun 2022 #48

The city of Philadlephia owns it's own (monopoly) gas company BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #53

Dimethyl Ether (DME) is a synthetic fuel that could replace propane and butane. hunter Jun 2022 #9

It probably could BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #15

I Don't Agree ProfessorGAC Jun 2022 #44

Natural gas is the fuel that will destroy the world's natural environment as we know it... hunter Jun 2022 #55

No Argument From Me ProfessorGAC Jun 2022 #70

I was part of that nuclear shutdown. hunter Jun 2022 #86

They Were Talking About Shut Downs Here... ProfessorGAC Jun 2022 #88

Clean energy is great, but more electricity demands? Grid is shaky, more summer power blackouts? Shanti Shanti Shanti Jun 2022 #3

the grid needs to be upgraded Celerity Jun 2022 #4

Yep...for like the last 20 freaking years. paleotn Jun 2022 #19

probably longer than that, lol, I am sure it was in bad shape before 2002 Celerity Jun 2022 #20

The condition was bad enough to be a contributing trigger to the "great NE blackout of 2003) BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #25

Can't decarbonize by just flipping a switch (pun intended) paleotn Jun 2022 #18

Adam Icanthinkformyself Jun 2022 #5

i live in an all electric apartment . hem . when the power goes out , evrything goes out AllaN01Bear Jun 2022 #7

What kind of shit hole nation can't keep the lights on? hunter Jun 2022 #10

Lol!! paleotn Jun 2022 #21

Where exactly are blackouts common in the US? EX500rider Jun 2022 #41

"Where exactly are blackouts common in the US?" BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #52

Southern California, in the summer. Iggo Jun 2022 #83

hem is Swedish for home Celerity Jun 2022 #13

these is the same paper that killed subays in la AllaN01Bear Jun 2022 #11

As a Transportation Planner, I can say that the National City Lines conspiracy... brooklynite Jun 2022 #17

When you mention that subway in LA BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #22

As a rule I don't go to a "standup comedian and TV host" for informed opinion. brooklynite Jun 2022 #14

Conover fully documents his claims, and he has the same level of education as many Politico writers Celerity Jun 2022 #26

I thought we were beating up on the LA Times in this thread? brooklynite Jun 2022 #27

I used Politico as an example because you post it a lot Celerity Jun 2022 #30

I post news stories from Politico... brooklynite Jun 2022 #31

you are ignoring all the articles he backed up his claims with, and unlike Politico Celerity Jun 2022 #32

The "claims" are false ones, as anyone who has cooked on gas vs electric knows. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #57

+1000, this is unmistakably an attempt to label the Times a RW Nixie Jun 2022 #77

Saying it will only affect new restaurants is a lame argument in a dynamic city Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #29

the new rule would apply only to newly constructed buildings, not a swap out of one resto to another Celerity Jun 2022 #33

And as I said, LA is constantly re-building and re-inventing itself. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #34

The climate-destroying and health-endangering natures of fossil fuels are the paramount issue, they Celerity Jun 2022 #35

Which makes electrification a win-win when it boosts businesses (and individuals), Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #36

I disagree with your premiss, it is not a valid one at the present time. Celerity Jun 2022 #37

Do you believe that Los Angeles is a city where construction is static? Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #39

I was born in Los Angeles, my parents moved back to London when i was less than 2, raised in London, Celerity Jun 2022 #40

Then I'm sure, with your perspective, that you know Los Angeles is a city Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #42

They rewrote building codes to require NEWLY built homes and buildings to achieve zero-carbon Celerity Jun 2022 #49

Framing attempts? Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #56

There is no 'killing the future of the restaurant industry in Los Angeles' from this at all, that Celerity Jun 2022 #58

How dare you to accuse me of spreading RW talking points. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #60

+1, the accusations are a predictable pattern. Nixie Jun 2022 #73

Wowzer. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #76

Absolutely! Nixie Jun 2022 #80

+1000, a lot of very established restaurants cannot afford the new lease prices and are Nixie Jun 2022 #79

Yep. So many restaurants are wobbling and are on their last legs. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #82

So it delays the ban a few years. Zeitghost Jun 2022 #46

renovation isn't a newly constructed building, which is what the legislation specifically applies to Celerity Jun 2022 #50

So it's a few more years Zeitghost Jun 2022 #64

'To push all decent new restaurants just outside the city limits' Celerity Jun 2022 #65

There are already days where it is illegal for me to use my smoker in California nt ripcord Jun 2022 #38

Is This The Same State... ProfessorGAC Jun 2022 #45

California approves 11.5 GW of new clean resources in largest-ever single procurement order Celerity Jun 2022 #51

And? ProfessorGAC Jun 2022 #75

As of 2018, at least 51.09% of California's total power mix comes from non fossil fuel Celerity Jun 2022 #87

Solar is useless when the sun isn't shining. Wind is useless when the wind isn't blowing. hunter Jun 2022 #89

I am one of the few here who is massively pro nuclear. The EROEI from Celerity Jun 2022 #90

Depleted uranium is similar to thorium as a fuel and there are large stockpiles of it. hunter Jun 2022 #91

I've never cooked on an electric stove that was as good as gas. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #54

Well, if you are young enough, you likely will eventually have to convert. Fossil fuels are a menace Celerity Jun 2022 #59

Sounds like a clear admission that the framing that this will not harm restaurants Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #61

All you do is repeat the same thing over and over, with the added spice now of hopping into a reply Celerity Jun 2022 #62

That's quite a criticism coming from one who tries to Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #63

now you are goalpost moving Celerity Jun 2022 #66

Bird dogging you? That's malarkey. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #67

You absolutely are bird-dogging me. I said I was done and you went back into a different part of the Celerity Jun 2022 #68

Why personalize this?? It is your thread that is getting responses. Nixie Jun 2022 #71

LOL. You can decide when you are "done," but that doesn't give you the power to Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #72

Hang in there and welcome to DU Hekate Jun 2022 #81

Thanks. Such personal attacks do not seem to be in the intended spirit of this website. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #84

Yes, you are right Hekate Jun 2022 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Jun 2022 #69

I currently have a glass top electric stove. It gets the job done. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #74

0.15% (almost none) of California in state electricity is produced by coal. 3.3% total (counting Celerity Jun 2022 #78