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Dorian Gray

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46. Thanks for your perspective

Mon Jun 6, 2022, 06:16 AM

Jun 2022

it's a good one.

I find with any great cultural shift, you need to lean into it gently. Like you say, compromise. It shouldn't be zero-sum. When we make gains, and deaths decrease, we can lean in more.

Changing minds and hearts should be our goal. While it feels righteous to ban everything here, I generally want a cultural shift and acceptance. It's not about punishing people who have guns.

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Why is the firearms issue being treated as a zero sum game? [View all] TrogL Jun 2022 OP

Have you ever tried arguing with 2A absolutionists? It's like talking to a brick wall. Initech Jun 2022 #1

The same could be said of gun-ban absolutists. Straw Man Jun 2022 #9

Oh ffs. MrsCoffee Jun 2022 #12

5 North Shore Chicago Jun 2022 #13

While I'm sure that opinion makes you feel righteous, it achieves nothing. NutmegYankee Jun 2022 #16

Why would I want to address the fears and concerns of terrorists? MrsCoffee Jun 2022 #17

Have you considered that they feel the same about you? NutmegYankee Jun 2022 #18

I know how they feel about me and I don't care. MrsCoffee Jun 2022 #20

I agree with you- they want military weapons Tumbulu Jun 2022 #25

Who are "they"? Straw Man Jun 2022 #27

Yeah well how the fuck is the current status quo working out for you? MrsCoffee Jun 2022 #32

Your rhetoric does nothing but perpetuate the status quo. Straw Man Jun 2022 #33

Learn the difference between radicalism and extremism. MrsCoffee Jun 2022 #35

For all practical purposes, they are the same thing. Straw Man Jun 2022 #38

Extremism is demanding the right to buy military weapons Tumbulu Jun 2022 #40

That's an example, not a definition. Straw Man Jun 2022 #42

The current status quo supports the gun owners... brooklynite Jun 2022 #37

Well, maybe you should re read my post. Tumbulu Jun 2022 #39

I did. You're still wrong. Straw Man Jun 2022 #41

You appear to be unnecessarily confrontational, so please take a step back Tumbulu Jun 2022 #44

Let me remind you that you said this: Straw Man Jun 2022 #45

We wish to confront the extremists, you seem to want to confront us. MrsCoffee Jun 2022 #47

Again I ask: Who are the extremists? Straw Man Jun 2022 #53

So, those standing there, threatening us all Tumbulu Jun 2022 #49

Your brush is extremely broad. Straw Man Jun 2022 #52

Gun fetishes are disgusting. hunter Jun 2022 #19

Preach. You are not alone. crickets Jun 2022 #22

Excellent! Agree 1000x's!!!!!! Tumbulu Jun 2022 #26

Pardon me, but ... Straw Man Jun 2022 #28

My "classism?" What is that? hunter Jun 2022 #30

Here it is. Straw Man Jun 2022 #34

Must be why my wife and I have always lived and worked in rough U.S.A.... hunter Jun 2022 #36

Its interesting that you bring up a zero sum game. SYFROYH Jun 2022 #2

Typically, a gun safety argument will work. Heller actually allows for safety based regulations. haele Jun 2022 #5

I have a suggestion for avoiding the zero-sum trap. Straw Man Jun 2022 #8

There are 2 acquaintances of mine, men like me, BootinUp Jun 2022 #3

This will be fun Fla_Democrat Jun 2022 #4

We are giving them the benefit of the doubt, which is... TreasonousBastard Jun 2022 #6

Interesting comparison. Rhiannon12866 Jun 2022 #7

Exactly! Compromise isn't a dirty word! forthemiddle Jun 2022 #10

You have to start kacekwl Jun 2022 #15

Your math is flawed. Straw Man Jun 2022 #43

Give away 95% to the terrorists. MrsCoffee Jun 2022 #48

Apparently you would rather have nothing than 5% of something. Straw Man Jun 2022 #54

I'm also in recovery ... Novara Jun 2022 #11

The gun cult believes that chipping away at their ability to have GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #14

I will say this DonCoquixote Jun 2022 #21

So, get your answer? Fla_Democrat Jun 2022 #23

Yeah, it's a multi variant problem TrogL Jun 2022 #24

If that's what you took from this Fla_Democrat Jun 2022 #29

Certainly living up to your sig line kcr Jun 2022 #51

It's a bad faith attempt to silence the debate, and is the same as saying, "There's nothing we can Oneironaut Jun 2022 #31

Thanks for your perspective Dorian Gray Jun 2022 #46

Case in point iemanja Jun 2022 #50