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AntivaxHunters

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30. My thoughts? Fuck cops.
Thu Jun 9, 2022, 06:16 AM
Jun 2022

Defund the shit out them.
ACAB & FTP.
"They think they have the authority to kill a minority".

Why defunding the police would actually make our streets safer
In 2014 and 2015 New York officers staged a “slowdown” to protest the mayor, arguing that if they did less police work, the city would be less safe. Instead, crime dropped


While “defund the police” makes for a catchy slogan, the logic behind it is nuanced. It doesn’t simply amount to getting rid of the police force (though this end is certainly fundamental to the idea – MPD150 explicitly call for a “Police-Free Future.”) Rather, the goal is reallocation – resources, funding, and responsibilities taken away from the police and funnelled into other initiatives that might improve public safety.

In Los Angeles, for instance, Black Lives Matter has been pushing for a “people’s budget” that lowers the general fund to law enforcement from 51 per cent to just 5.7. “The concept of defunding and dismantling police departments is not just about getting rid of them,” says Philip McHarris, a doctoral candidate in sociology at Yale University and lead research and policy associate at the Community Resource Hub for Safety and Accountability. “It’s also about creating new things.”

Over the last 40 years, police have been leant on as a solution to social problems, writes Alex Vitale, a professor of sociology and the coordinator of the Policing and Social Justice Project at Brooklyn College and the author of The End of Policing. From dysfunctional schools to inappropriate mental health interventions to the opioid epidemic, police have been asked to step in to solve social ills. This solution has proven particularly widespread in America because the country’s welfare state is so threadbare.

Over the same period of time, the cost of policing in the US has tripled, to $115 billion. In most cities, spending on police dominates city budgets, like the $1.8bn spent on police in Los Angeles, for example, which is more than half the city’s general fund, or the $165 million for the Minneapolis police department – accounting for 30 per cent of the entire city budget.

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I was never part of that 'we' myself Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2022 #1
agreed. The concept is fundamentally flawed Amishman Jun 2022 #13
Not the concept. The implementation. Caliman73 Jun 2022 #38
We're saying the same thing in different words Amishman Jun 2022 #39
I can agree to that. Caliman73 Jun 2022 #40
I'm sure a well-funded police will never be a force for anti-choice fascism ck4829 Jun 2022 #2
And that's why DTP failed so spectacularly. brooklynite Jun 2022 #18
So when they're enforcing state-sponsored sexism and control of a woman's body ck4829 Jun 2022 #19
... I see. ck4829 Jun 2022 #26
If they choose to defy what is going on, then I'll be wrong ck4829 Jun 2022 #24
Point 1: I'm not aware that police are responsible for enforcing abortion laws brooklynite Jun 2022 #25
#1 Dorian Gray Jun 2022 #27
Oh. Oh, maybe you'll answer the question then, since he didn't ck4829 Jun 2022 #32
This is not going to happen Dorian Gray Jun 2022 #34
Indeed it is inthewind21 Jun 2022 #3
That's a good thing. I don't know who started Defund the Police it was one doc03 Jun 2022 #4
The Republicans gave us the "Defund" thingie. nt DURHAM D Jun 2022 #5
No I don't think so I heard much of that talk on the MSNBC shows doc03 Jun 2022 #7
The defund the police Dorian Gray Jun 2022 #28
No. Try BLM AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #29
"The Republican National Committee approves this message..." brooklynite Jun 2022 #33
Albuquerque has had a long term crime wave. comradebillyboy Jun 2022 #6
The slogan was bad but the idea was rock solid PTWB Jun 2022 #8
+1 - nt Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #15
+1 leftstreet Jun 2022 #20
The guy who drowned in Tempe recently is a good example tishaLA Jun 2022 #23
I think GOPers are doing push-poll mailings on this greenman3610 Jun 2022 #9
always thought 'reform' should have been used instead of 'defund' samnsara Jun 2022 #10
That phrase should be attributed to the man refusing to pay his $2mil police protection fees Pyryck Jun 2022 #11
Too many people think that one more increased budget cycle will fix the problems the police have. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #12
Defund was never a policy. Why did every republican vote no on INCREASED funding for police onecaliberal Jun 2022 #14
Winston Smith nt sarisataka Jun 2022 #16
It was a stupid idea that revealed itself as a stupid idea. brooklynite Jun 2022 #17
I think the 'defund' movement has a point in that police can useless and detrimental In It to Win It Jun 2022 #21
That was always a poorly chosen slogan. MineralMan Jun 2022 #22
My thoughts? Fuck cops. AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #30
I think your message stinks Dorian Gray Jun 2022 #35
I think you defending cops sucks AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #36
The bad messaging gives Republicans Sugarcoated Jun 2022 #41
Pointing out that Dorian Gray Jun 2022 #43
"We" were never at defunding the police. eShirl Jun 2022 #31
Now do "build more prisons!" tenderfoot Jun 2022 #37
It's a Republican talking point gulliver Jun 2022 #42
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