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In reply to the discussion: It's amazing how fast we moved from defund the police to refund the police [View all]AntivaxHunters
(3,234 posts)30. My thoughts? Fuck cops.
Defund the shit out them.
ACAB & FTP.
"They think they have the authority to kill a minority".
Why defunding the police would actually make our streets safer
In 2014 and 2015 New York officers staged a slowdown to protest the mayor, arguing that if they did less police work, the city would be less safe. Instead, crime dropped
While defund the police makes for a catchy slogan, the logic behind it is nuanced. It doesnt simply amount to getting rid of the police force (though this end is certainly fundamental to the idea MPD150 explicitly call for a Police-Free Future.) Rather, the goal is reallocation resources, funding, and responsibilities taken away from the police and funnelled into other initiatives that might improve public safety.
In Los Angeles, for instance, Black Lives Matter has been pushing for a peoples budget that lowers the general fund to law enforcement from 51 per cent to just 5.7. The concept of defunding and dismantling police departments is not just about getting rid of them, says Philip McHarris, a doctoral candidate in sociology at Yale University and lead research and policy associate at the Community Resource Hub for Safety and Accountability. Its also about creating new things.
Over the last 40 years, police have been leant on as a solution to social problems, writes Alex Vitale, a professor of sociology and the coordinator of the Policing and Social Justice Project at Brooklyn College and the author of The End of Policing. From dysfunctional schools to inappropriate mental health interventions to the opioid epidemic, police have been asked to step in to solve social ills. This solution has proven particularly widespread in America because the countrys welfare state is so threadbare.
Over the same period of time, the cost of policing in the US has tripled, to $115 billion. In most cities, spending on police dominates city budgets, like the $1.8bn spent on police in Los Angeles, for example, which is more than half the citys general fund, or the $165 million for the Minneapolis police department accounting for 30 per cent of the entire city budget.

In 2014 and 2015 New York officers staged a slowdown to protest the mayor, arguing that if they did less police work, the city would be less safe. Instead, crime dropped
While defund the police makes for a catchy slogan, the logic behind it is nuanced. It doesnt simply amount to getting rid of the police force (though this end is certainly fundamental to the idea MPD150 explicitly call for a Police-Free Future.) Rather, the goal is reallocation resources, funding, and responsibilities taken away from the police and funnelled into other initiatives that might improve public safety.
In Los Angeles, for instance, Black Lives Matter has been pushing for a peoples budget that lowers the general fund to law enforcement from 51 per cent to just 5.7. The concept of defunding and dismantling police departments is not just about getting rid of them, says Philip McHarris, a doctoral candidate in sociology at Yale University and lead research and policy associate at the Community Resource Hub for Safety and Accountability. Its also about creating new things.
Over the last 40 years, police have been leant on as a solution to social problems, writes Alex Vitale, a professor of sociology and the coordinator of the Policing and Social Justice Project at Brooklyn College and the author of The End of Policing. From dysfunctional schools to inappropriate mental health interventions to the opioid epidemic, police have been asked to step in to solve social ills. This solution has proven particularly widespread in America because the countrys welfare state is so threadbare.
Over the same period of time, the cost of policing in the US has tripled, to $115 billion. In most cities, spending on police dominates city budgets, like the $1.8bn spent on police in Los Angeles, for example, which is more than half the citys general fund, or the $165 million for the Minneapolis police department accounting for 30 per cent of the entire city budget.

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It's amazing how fast we moved from defund the police to refund the police [View all]
DemocratSinceBirth
Jun 2022
OP
Point 1: I'm not aware that police are responsible for enforcing abortion laws
brooklynite
Jun 2022
#25
That phrase should be attributed to the man refusing to pay his $2mil police protection fees
Pyryck
Jun 2022
#11
Too many people think that one more increased budget cycle will fix the problems the police have.
WhiskeyGrinder
Jun 2022
#12
Defund was never a policy. Why did every republican vote no on INCREASED funding for police
onecaliberal
Jun 2022
#14
I think the 'defund' movement has a point in that police can useless and detrimental
In It to Win It
Jun 2022
#21