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Caliman73

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38. Not the concept. The implementation.

Thu Jun 9, 2022, 05:33 PM

Jun 2022

The concept has been proven in other countries like Spain and Portugal.

The problem is that people, as you said, cut funding for police before any efforts to mitigate root causes got under way.

The way you described it at the end of your post, is the way it needs to be implemented. More expense in the beginning, but a longer term sustainable system in the long run.

The problem is that Americans always want a quick fix, with no sacrifice. Conservatives don't care at all. They do not think ANY money should be going to fix problems of poverty.

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It's amazing how fast we moved from defund the police to refund the police [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2022 OP

I was never part of that 'we' myself Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2022 #1

agreed. The concept is fundamentally flawed Amishman Jun 2022 #13

Not the concept. The implementation. Caliman73 Jun 2022 #38

We're saying the same thing in different words Amishman Jun 2022 #39

I can agree to that. Caliman73 Jun 2022 #40

I'm sure a well-funded police will never be a force for anti-choice fascism ck4829 Jun 2022 #2

And that's why DTP failed so spectacularly. brooklynite Jun 2022 #18

So when they're enforcing state-sponsored sexism and control of a woman's body ck4829 Jun 2022 #19

... I see. ck4829 Jun 2022 #26

If they choose to defy what is going on, then I'll be wrong ck4829 Jun 2022 #24

Point 1: I'm not aware that police are responsible for enforcing abortion laws brooklynite Jun 2022 #25

#1 Dorian Gray Jun 2022 #27

Oh. Oh, maybe you'll answer the question then, since he didn't ck4829 Jun 2022 #32

This is not going to happen Dorian Gray Jun 2022 #34

Indeed it is inthewind21 Jun 2022 #3

That's a good thing. I don't know who started Defund the Police it was one doc03 Jun 2022 #4

The Republicans gave us the "Defund" thingie. nt DURHAM D Jun 2022 #5

No I don't think so I heard much of that talk on the MSNBC shows doc03 Jun 2022 #7

The defund the police Dorian Gray Jun 2022 #28

No. Try BLM AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #29

"The Republican National Committee approves this message..." brooklynite Jun 2022 #33

Albuquerque has had a long term crime wave. comradebillyboy Jun 2022 #6

The slogan was bad but the idea was rock solid PTWB Jun 2022 #8

+1 - nt Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #15

+1 leftstreet Jun 2022 #20

The guy who drowned in Tempe recently is a good example tishaLA Jun 2022 #23

I think GOPers are doing push-poll mailings on this greenman3610 Jun 2022 #9

always thought 'reform' should have been used instead of 'defund' samnsara Jun 2022 #10

That phrase should be attributed to the man refusing to pay his $2mil police protection fees Pyryck Jun 2022 #11

Too many people think that one more increased budget cycle will fix the problems the police have. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #12

Defund was never a policy. Why did every republican vote no on INCREASED funding for police onecaliberal Jun 2022 #14

Winston Smith nt sarisataka Jun 2022 #16

It was a stupid idea that revealed itself as a stupid idea. brooklynite Jun 2022 #17

I think the 'defund' movement has a point in that police can useless and detrimental In It to Win It Jun 2022 #21

That was always a poorly chosen slogan. MineralMan Jun 2022 #22

My thoughts? Fuck cops. AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #30

I think your message stinks Dorian Gray Jun 2022 #35

I think you defending cops sucks AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #36

The bad messaging gives Republicans Sugarcoated Jun 2022 #41

Pointing out that Dorian Gray Jun 2022 #43

"We" were never at defunding the police. eShirl Jun 2022 #31

Now do "build more prisons!" tenderfoot Jun 2022 #37

It's a Republican talking point gulliver Jun 2022 #42