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SoonerPride

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52. lol. ok sure

Fri Jun 10, 2022, 10:04 AM

Jun 2022

Case closed.

This just further lends credence to why so many people testified before the committee and didn't invoke the 5th.

Ivanka
Jared

et al.

Seems like we could infer they do indeed have secret pardons. Which is what Kirchner said too.

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I no longer care if the hearings change peoples minds. I believe the indictments are coming. [View all] fightforfreedom Jun 2022 OP

Time will tell. One guess os a good as another. CentralMass Jun 2022 #1

Yes, but some will just keep stirring the shit till time does tell. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #21

Right? hamsterjill Jun 2022 #43

Ditto. For those millions of RWers there's no mind-changing given they are head down in the Koolaid. onetexan Jun 2022 #2

They are like addicts addicted to their hate endorphins. LuvLoogie Jun 2022 #22

Well put and I agree. Prof. Toru Tanaka Jun 2022 #3

Justice is coming, judgement day is near! Emile Jun 2022 #4

I'm not expecting a waterfall but I do think the long grind of justice will wear them down bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #5

Washington Journal on now discussing the Jan 6 committee Emile Jun 2022 #6

It amazes me ... NanceGreggs Jun 2022 #7

+ 100,000. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2022 #8

Well said malaise Jun 2022 #9

Especially because the J6 committee has the receipts. Novara Jun 2022 #10

Right on! NanceGreggs Jun 2022 #18

inaction speaks for itself unfortunately .... getagrip_already Jun 2022 #28

"Cannot" brooklynite Jun 2022 #11

What if trump issued pocket pardons to all of them? SoonerPride Jun 2022 #12

I pardon you with my pocket pardon. LOL. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #15

We know he did not pardon all of them... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #23

We know nothing of the kind. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #24

You miss the point... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #25

Secret pardons? Do you also believe little green men are visiting earth? fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #26

It's old news. Here try this: SoonerPride Jun 2022 #27

There has to be limits to this pardons get out of jail free cards onetexan Jun 2022 #29

Unfortunately the Constitution is rather skimpy on the subject SoonerPride Jun 2022 #37

Why would the DOJ keep them "secret" after Trump was no longer president? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2022 #31

Wouldn't the DOJ tell us there was pardons? fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #34

Why would they? SoonerPride Jun 2022 #36

What you are saying defies logic. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #39

Much about the last 5 years defies logic. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #44

In a normal world, it defies logic. hamsterjill Jun 2022 #46

Lawrence O'Donnell Effete Snob Jun 2022 #77

glen kerschner disagrees with you... getagrip_already Jun 2022 #30

OK... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #35

they can't have both..... getagrip_already Jun 2022 #38

If DOJ knows... And they would... Why keep it secret? Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #41

dunno, secret memo maybe? executive order? getagrip_already Jun 2022 #50

Realize it or not... Now you implicate President Biden in helping TFG... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #57

he would repeal one if it existed, but eo's can't just be negated... getagrip_already Jun 2022 #58

Not true... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #60

then one doesn't exist imho.... n/t getagrip_already Jun 2022 #63

A pardon is not an executive order. It's a pardon Article 2 Section 2 bottomofthehill Jun 2022 #78

It's not about whether or not it's a smart move. ReluctanceTango Jun 2022 #70

That would be true if they were subpoenaed... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #71

And it could still be true if they weren't subpoenaed. ReluctanceTango Jun 2022 #73

Perhaps... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #74

Do you understand what you are saying? fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #40

It's glens nonesense.... but how so? getagrip_already Jun 2022 #51

Are you familiar with the legalities? ReluctanceTango Jun 2022 #72

Bannon got one AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2022 #75

True... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #76

If he did, it was a dumb move. ReluctanceTango Jun 2022 #68

Hence why Ivanka testified before the committee. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #69

IF the indictments do not come, people will lose ALL faith in the DOJ and it will Ferrets are Cool Jun 2022 #13

It would destroy the rule of law in America. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #16

How do you know? edhopper Jun 2022 #14

The white supremacists will just pick another false idol to worship after TFG is gone vlyons Jun 2022 #17

Same here randr Jun 2022 #19

There have been a LOT of indictments 867-5309. Jun 2022 #20

seriously? all indictments have been against outsiders..... getagrip_already Jun 2022 #32

I agree, TFG's inner circle is pretty intact 867-5309. Jun 2022 #59

about pardons: Novara Jun 2022 #33

Thank you for your post. Can we now stop talking about secret, magical pardons. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #45

lol. ok sure SoonerPride Jun 2022 #52

I am certainly no attorney, but I would think that if Trump was convicted of a crime Chainfire Jun 2022 #42

If I recall.. a person cannot pardon themselves LiberalFighter Jun 2022 #53

Like I say, I am no legal scholar, but I do not believe, from what I have read, Chainfire Jun 2022 #55

Yes, pardons sure should be invalid if part of a crime, but they are not. Hortensis Jun 2022 #56

With preemptive get out of jail free cards, there is not restraint on the crimes one may Chainfire Jun 2022 #61

Fortunately that didn't turn out to be true for tRump in his first term. Hortensis Jun 2022 #64

If he walks away from his past crimes with impunity, and regained the White House, Chainfire Jun 2022 #65

Yes, his attempted coup suggests he sets no limits on himself. Hortensis Jun 2022 #67

There is a BIG difference in the use of the words "know" and "believe". hamsterjill Jun 2022 #47

I agree with your post. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #48

Thank you for that admission. hamsterjill Jun 2022 #49

At the very least, Trump should never be permitted to run for any public office again. kentuck Jun 2022 #54

Absolutely, and of course a huge goal of both impeachment efforts. Hortensis Jun 2022 #66

I think the only area where Trump might be in trouble is the Georgia meddling case Poiuyt Jun 2022 #62