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Poiuyt

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62. I think the only area where Trump might be in trouble is the Georgia meddling case

Reply to fightforfreedom (Original post)

Fri Jun 10, 2022, 11:24 AM

Jun 2022

"I need you to find me x number of votes." Anything else can be dismissed as not being specific enough. Michael Cohen told us how Trump would give directives in code. I think that will save him from inciting the coup attempt.

That said, I think these hearings are very important for future historians so they know the extent of Trump's criminal behavior. And I certainly hope they solidify Trump's standing as the worst president in US history. There's no way that James Buchanan is worse than Trump.

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I no longer care if the hearings change peoples minds. I believe the indictments are coming. [View all] fightforfreedom Jun 2022 OP

Time will tell. One guess os a good as another. CentralMass Jun 2022 #1

Yes, but some will just keep stirring the shit till time does tell. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #21

Right? hamsterjill Jun 2022 #43

Ditto. For those millions of RWers there's no mind-changing given they are head down in the Koolaid. onetexan Jun 2022 #2

They are like addicts addicted to their hate endorphins. LuvLoogie Jun 2022 #22

Well put and I agree. Prof. Toru Tanaka Jun 2022 #3

Justice is coming, judgement day is near! Emile Jun 2022 #4

I'm not expecting a waterfall but I do think the long grind of justice will wear them down bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #5

Washington Journal on now discussing the Jan 6 committee Emile Jun 2022 #6

It amazes me ... NanceGreggs Jun 2022 #7

+ 100,000. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2022 #8

Well said malaise Jun 2022 #9

Especially because the J6 committee has the receipts. Novara Jun 2022 #10

Right on! NanceGreggs Jun 2022 #18

inaction speaks for itself unfortunately .... getagrip_already Jun 2022 #28

"Cannot" brooklynite Jun 2022 #11

What if trump issued pocket pardons to all of them? SoonerPride Jun 2022 #12

I pardon you with my pocket pardon. LOL. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #15

We know he did not pardon all of them... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #23

We know nothing of the kind. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #24

You miss the point... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #25

Secret pardons? Do you also believe little green men are visiting earth? fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #26

It's old news. Here try this: SoonerPride Jun 2022 #27

There has to be limits to this pardons get out of jail free cards onetexan Jun 2022 #29

Unfortunately the Constitution is rather skimpy on the subject SoonerPride Jun 2022 #37

Why would the DOJ keep them "secret" after Trump was no longer president? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2022 #31

Wouldn't the DOJ tell us there was pardons? fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #34

Why would they? SoonerPride Jun 2022 #36

What you are saying defies logic. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #39

Much about the last 5 years defies logic. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #44

In a normal world, it defies logic. hamsterjill Jun 2022 #46

Lawrence O'Donnell Effete Snob Jun 2022 #77

glen kerschner disagrees with you... getagrip_already Jun 2022 #30

OK... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #35

they can't have both..... getagrip_already Jun 2022 #38

If DOJ knows... And they would... Why keep it secret? Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #41

dunno, secret memo maybe? executive order? getagrip_already Jun 2022 #50

Realize it or not... Now you implicate President Biden in helping TFG... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #57

he would repeal one if it existed, but eo's can't just be negated... getagrip_already Jun 2022 #58

Not true... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #60

then one doesn't exist imho.... n/t getagrip_already Jun 2022 #63

A pardon is not an executive order. It's a pardon Article 2 Section 2 bottomofthehill Jun 2022 #78

It's not about whether or not it's a smart move. ReluctanceTango Jun 2022 #70

That would be true if they were subpoenaed... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #71

And it could still be true if they weren't subpoenaed. ReluctanceTango Jun 2022 #73

Perhaps... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #74

Do you understand what you are saying? fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #40

It's glens nonesense.... but how so? getagrip_already Jun 2022 #51

Are you familiar with the legalities? ReluctanceTango Jun 2022 #72

Bannon got one AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2022 #75

True... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #76

If he did, it was a dumb move. ReluctanceTango Jun 2022 #68

Hence why Ivanka testified before the committee. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #69

IF the indictments do not come, people will lose ALL faith in the DOJ and it will Ferrets are Cool Jun 2022 #13

It would destroy the rule of law in America. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #16

How do you know? edhopper Jun 2022 #14

The white supremacists will just pick another false idol to worship after TFG is gone vlyons Jun 2022 #17

Same here randr Jun 2022 #19

There have been a LOT of indictments 867-5309. Jun 2022 #20

seriously? all indictments have been against outsiders..... getagrip_already Jun 2022 #32

I agree, TFG's inner circle is pretty intact 867-5309. Jun 2022 #59

about pardons: Novara Jun 2022 #33

Thank you for your post. Can we now stop talking about secret, magical pardons. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #45

lol. ok sure SoonerPride Jun 2022 #52

I am certainly no attorney, but I would think that if Trump was convicted of a crime Chainfire Jun 2022 #42

If I recall.. a person cannot pardon themselves LiberalFighter Jun 2022 #53

Like I say, I am no legal scholar, but I do not believe, from what I have read, Chainfire Jun 2022 #55

Yes, pardons sure should be invalid if part of a crime, but they are not. Hortensis Jun 2022 #56

With preemptive get out of jail free cards, there is not restraint on the crimes one may Chainfire Jun 2022 #61

Fortunately that didn't turn out to be true for tRump in his first term. Hortensis Jun 2022 #64

If he walks away from his past crimes with impunity, and regained the White House, Chainfire Jun 2022 #65

Yes, his attempted coup suggests he sets no limits on himself. Hortensis Jun 2022 #67

There is a BIG difference in the use of the words "know" and "believe". hamsterjill Jun 2022 #47

I agree with your post. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #48

Thank you for that admission. hamsterjill Jun 2022 #49

At the very least, Trump should never be permitted to run for any public office again. kentuck Jun 2022 #54

Absolutely, and of course a huge goal of both impeachment efforts. Hortensis Jun 2022 #66

I think the only area where Trump might be in trouble is the Georgia meddling case Poiuyt Jun 2022 #62