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cilla4progress

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3. I see it the same way.

Fri Jun 10, 2022, 05:59 PM

Jun 2022

I thought the same thing when I watched the fine presentation someone posted here of Amy Goodman from Free Speech TV on last night's hearing.

It was such a great distillation of the J6 video and the timeline..I thought I hope (and suspect) DOJ prosecutors watch it!!

I'm sure there are many other great summaries, as well.

And tho we think and wish politics didn't play into it - it is inherent when we conjecture that Garland has to weigh what a prosecution would (or wouldn't) do to the country. It's all politics.

Politics definition:

"the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power."

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Merrick Garland is an Honorable Person. [View all] gab13by13 Jun 2022 OP

Other than your claim that he's an "institutionalist"... brooklynite Jun 2022 #1

No former president has ever been charged with a crime. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #10

Yep. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #56

The closest, Spiro Agnew was treestar Jun 2022 #119

It is common sense gab13by13 Jun 2022 #16

it's what a lot of them think they want anarch Jun 2022 #28

"Merrick Garland is going to have to decide what the consequences will be" brooklynite Jun 2022 #125

"prosecuting Trump would tear our country apart." Pantagruel Jun 2022 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #24

I see it the same way. cilla4progress Jun 2022 #3

I like Amy Goodman as well. I watch her show a lot. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #12

NOT prosecuting Trump would tear the country apart AND spooky3 Jun 2022 #4

I agree. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #6

Given what everyone knows about Trump and his continuing support of around 40%... Girard442 Jun 2022 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #21

My guess is about 15-20% of all adults in the US are Trumpets. JanMichael Jun 2022 #67

Correct..... and I ask..... MyOwnPeace Jun 2022 #72

That's what they said about Nixon. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #14

Nixon did not orchestrate a coup. Nt spooky3 Jun 2022 #23

He secretly bombed Cambodia and a whole host of other crimes. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #40

Unfortunately, several Presidents did things similar to that spooky3 Jun 2022 #45

Well now you're making my point for me. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #70

No, I'm not. Have a nice evening. Nt spooky3 Jun 2022 #86

It doesn't do us any good to minimize Nixon's crimes. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #100

Nixon resigned, at least treestar Jun 2022 #120

The decision to prosecute an ex-president and half of the US congress is above his pay grade. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #5

Ummmm....Garland is the AG. He reports to the POTUS. Girard442 Jun 2022 #13

He is standing on precedent and tradition. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #20

Shrub and Cheney gab13by13 Jun 2022 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #31

But not a violation of the US Code. paleotn Jun 2022 #39

No former president has ever been charged with a crime. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #95

He also let the statute of limitations run out gldstwmn Jun 2022 #98

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #112

No other president has incited an overthrow of our elected government and encouraged his supporters Autumn Jun 2022 #99

Have any of them committed a crime, that is, with enough evidence treestar Jun 2022 #121

No other president attempted to prevent Voltaire2 Jun 2022 #128

He told you that, did he? brooklynite Jun 2022 #126

maybe he doesn't know he's in charge, kinda like that guy in Uvalde n/t anarch Jun 2022 #33

End of the day, constitutionally it is Garland's decision. paleotn Jun 2022 #41

He won't act in a vacuum. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #48

No, but it is his call. The buck stops with him on this. paleotn Jun 2022 #68

I have to be honest, I do not think he will pull the trigger. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #71

Then the republic is finished. paleotn Jun 2022 #75

I hope you are correct. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #97

I don't think he will act in a vacuum either. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #82

I am just going by how other crises are handled inside the beltway. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #79

Think about how the major power brokers will negotiate the solution. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #85

Yes I agree, this is something he has discussed with the President FakeNoose Jun 2022 #87

Would public pressure help to move him? BigmanPigman Jun 2022 #8

So the American people have to speak out Beachnutt Jun 2022 #9

It isn't an easy decision gab13by13 Jun 2022 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #34

We're already in a civil war for all practical purposes. paleotn Jun 2022 #42

Yes and look at the trend of the courts giving rights back to the states. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #49

He is doing the job treestar Jun 2022 #122

I feel the same as your post and why I disagree with Garland. I think it does more harm to the LizBeth Jun 2022 #11

You are absolutely right. But 9/11 happened and put a stop to anything that might have happened gldstwmn Jun 2022 #17

By 2008 a number of crimes had been committed and Obama said that we would be moving forward LizBeth Jun 2022 #19

It absolutely does more harm. BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #30

Go 'way back'.......... MyOwnPeace Jun 2022 #76

Nixon resigned and was done. He may not have gone to prison, but he did experience repercussions. LizBeth Jun 2022 #78

And he ALSO came back as an 'honorable, elder statesman.......' MyOwnPeace Jun 2022 #90

(WMD lies), NSA/ATT, torture, invasion, contract hire. Lots there with Bushco. And yes. LizBeth Jun 2022 #91

Didn't feel like 'flooding the webs'........ MyOwnPeace Jun 2022 #93

+1 LizBeth Jun 2022 #94

Ugh, Ronnie Raygun cut a deal with Iran for the hostages causing Jimmy Carter to lose the election. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #18

Chin, I sense that you are....... MyOwnPeace Jun 2022 #81

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Our country has been "torn apart" for a very very long time BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #22

People need to change the channel here at DU. gab13by13 Jun 2022 #25

I'm on both sides Just_Vote_Dem Jun 2022 #35

How would you get Trump to a grand jury? gab13by13 Jun 2022 #51

Say "Please"? Just_Vote_Dem Jun 2022 #57

Sorry, I'm slow, gab13by13 Jun 2022 #66

There are not 70 million armed Trump supporters waiting for a signal from Trump. mnhtnbb Jun 2022 #37

You and I agree on what we would do gab13by13 Jun 2022 #43

Rachel had an interesting show this past Monday. mnhtnbb Jun 2022 #53

Trump can be more easily charged with 2 other crimes gab13by13 Jun 2022 #60

IMO RICO Charges will be pressed against TFG at the least. Much easier to get a conviction. Tommymac Jun 2022 #104

RICO would be awesome because it takes out an entire criminal organization. Woot! gldstwmn Jun 2022 #105

😈 😈 😈 nt Tommymac Jun 2022 #111

The January 6 crowd would do it all again tomorrow. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #52

69,998,000 do well to get off their couch. paleotn Jun 2022 #54

Make no mistake, I am all in favor of prosecution. I am just saying that historically that is not gldstwmn Jun 2022 #59

Oh, dear lord. paleotn Jun 2022 #47

um Skittles Jun 2022 #65

JHC! Notek Jun 2022 #27

"But they might get mad and start a civil war!111" BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #32

I guarantee you that Garland is considering that. gab13by13 Jun 2022 #38

Oh, I have ZERO DOUBTS about that. BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #46

Private citizens in this country own 20,000,000 assault rifles. They are no match for our military gldstwmn Jun 2022 #62

Only 15% of US citizens own all that armor, still a lot but not in vast majority of houses uponit7771 Jun 2022 #107

That makes it all the more unsettling. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #109

Actually its 32% of US adults own some type of firearm ... that's scary uponit7771 Jun 2022 #124

I really doubt that's a consideration. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #69

"Anyone giving them the power by being afraid of what they might do...not the way to go. Nope." BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #84

Sorry my bad, I had a few drinks last night with an old friend. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #117

Those folks are being prosecuted impressively. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #101

I agree with you, gab13by13 Jun 2022 #36

Well, Notek Jun 2022 #50

As I said above, gab13by13 Jun 2022 #55

Yeah, good point. Notek Jun 2022 #61

I don't think they would have to raid Trumps resort. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #92

If Trump was indicted there would be no need for a grand jury appearance. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #103

I agree it will be part of his decision, the impact of indicting Trump. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #73

That's what they said about Nixon. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #58

Can an "institutionalist" be honorable if all loyalty is to The Institution? JanMichael Jun 2022 #63

Ask John Roberts. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #106

Nope. JanMichael Jun 2022 #110

Trump ALREADY tore America apart Skittles Jun 2022 #64

So far, yes. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #102

Garland will be arresting Trump soon! Emile Jun 2022 #74

He has to get him to the grand jury first. gab13by13 Jun 2022 #80

No he doesn't. Voltaire2 Jun 2022 #116

Attorney General Merrick Garland's Jan. 5 commitment bigtree Jun 2022 #77

What happened with Mark Meadows and Dan Scavino? gab13by13 Jun 2022 #83

still facing potential felony charges bigtree Jun 2022 #89

This a really great conversation! MN2theMax Jun 2022 #88

It is. It finally feels like adults are having the conversation. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #113

Trump would have skated away, with no questions asked... kentuck Jun 2022 #114

Reminds me of Marc Antony's speech about Brutus Mysterian Jun 2022 #123

Lol. Would tear our country apart? Voltaire2 Jun 2022 #115

The country is already torn apart the worst since the Civil War. kentuck Jun 2022 #118

No shit. Voltaire2 Jun 2022 #127

So, do we honor the unwritten gentleman's/presidential agreement not to snitch on each other Hotler Jun 2022 #129