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Johnny2X2X

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108. So almost half hospitalized have symptoms 4 months down the road

Tue Jun 14, 2022, 02:43 PM

Jun 2022

That's not surprising, if you were hospitalized you had it very severe. The hospitalization rate for Covid is at most a couple %, probably closer to 1/2 of 1% now considering positive tests aren't being reported.

How do people not hospitalized fair with long covid? In checking the studies, it's 30% that get long flu symptoms, so not as much as Covid although the death rate for flu is probably now a bit higher than Covid. The mortality rate of Covid is now lower than most flus in the US.

The bottom line is if you're vaccinated, Covid is much less a danger to you. We've got better ways to treat it. I'm not saying "it's just the flu", but I think we've come far enough to start comparing it to the dangers of flu season. At least for now. And for the record, we should be masking up now, but also we should be masking up during flu season too.

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Mask up everyone! NOW! [View all] AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 OP

It's very frustrating everyone wants to go Tree Lady Jun 2022 #1

Keep up with your boosters. Just got my 4th shot yesterday. Butterflylady Jun 2022 #42

Thanks we are getting second booster Tree Lady Jun 2022 #120

My 5th jab is due end of August. SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2022 #162

Will we be able to get a fifth one? I am older and compromised. I got fourth shot in March. Maggiemayhem Jun 2022 #187

I just assume we will. there is no more room on the card though. SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2022 #209

"so I keep thinking he will give it to me". notinkansas Jun 2022 #64

Being vaxed allows back to near normal, very little evidence of the contrary uponit7771 Jun 2022 #72

There's lots of evidence to the contrary AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #113

Nope. 42% of Jan-Feb deaths were vaxxed. They made bad choices. NullTuples Jun 2022 #158

How many of those were in the at risk group? tia uponit7771 Jun 2022 #174

It's an overall population figure. They were out dining & partying w/o masks. NullTuples Jun 2022 #201

Fully vaxxed 2 weeks past Covid here. People are getting it left and right. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #173

That's known, everyone on earth is going to get it but vaxed lowered chances of dying of it or .. uponit7771 Jun 2022 #175

I took Paxlovid. Actual miles may vary. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #178

almost no one is wearing masks around me too (southern Calif) Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #181

what area? pstokely Jun 2022 #184

oc Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #207

Do what you can to protect yourself Dorian Gray Jun 2022 #185

Never stopped. tanyev Jun 2022 #2

Me either geardaddy Jun 2022 #25

Me either. StarryNite Jun 2022 #52

Us neither. Over 1M dead. NOT ONE GOT IT FROM US. nt Hortensis Jun 2022 #145

Me either! SheltieLover Jun 2022 #149

We wear our masks in stores mgardener Jun 2022 #172

No sale. I haven't worn a mask since January. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #3

And reports from Africa say these 2 new variants are much weaker. Native Jun 2022 #68

Not quite true Dorian Gray Jun 2022 #186

+1, no evidence the vaxed should go back to alert level 1 uponit7771 Jun 2022 #69

Same here. Zeitghost Jun 2022 #76

And thank you! For helping Thtwudbeme Jun 2022 #84

Post removed Post removed Jun 2022 #86

Uh huh Thtwudbeme Jun 2022 #89

Poor thing. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #91

I'm with you, as usual!! beaglelover Jun 2022 #130

Why are you scared of wearing masks?? USALiberal Jun 2022 #133

Where did they say they were scared of wearing a mask????? beaglelover Jun 2022 #144

I am also 4x vaxxed. But if you get the wrong combo of variant and genetics, that don't mean squat. paulkienitz Jun 2022 #152

So was my father. progressoid Jun 2022 #180

and we're only starting to learn about the long term disabling effects of the disease paulkienitz Jun 2022 #202

The vaccines still protect against severe outcomes, but aren't very effective against infection. dawg Jun 2022 #4

Yes & no AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #8

Yes and ... yes! dawg Jun 2022 #14

I have lost two relatives, a brother and an uncle. wnylib Jun 2022 #57

Long COVID gets re-triggered with this varient. haele Jun 2022 #104

Long Covid that involves... Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #118

Sorry, stopped wearing masks 6 months ago. Still stay away from stores, crowds and do hand washing Shanti Shanti Shanti Jun 2022 #5

Smart by staying away from stores AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #6

It isn't that immunity is starting to wane. The virus has evolved. dawg Jun 2022 #11

It's technically both AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #13

So the masks annoy you? Scared? Nt USALiberal Jun 2022 #16

Enough hysteria, I dont live in fear. Ur masks wont save you if you hang around the infected herd. Shanti Shanti Shanti Jun 2022 #80

Hysteria? AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #114

Post removed Post removed Jun 2022 #136

How about discussion of how this killer virus was spread to 1M+ now-dead people? Hortensis Jun 2022 #146

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out, dear. ShazzieB Jun 2022 #148

Civil discourse billh58 Jun 2022 #154

Lol. Marsha, Marsha, Marsha. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #121

You can, I simply stated my view, FUCK THIS SHIT, I WILL NOT BE ATTACKED! Shanti Shanti Shanti Jun 2022 #137

Gracious! Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #141

Exit, Stage right. nt tazkcmo Jun 2022 #183

Wow, where have I heard those words before. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2022 #128

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You seem upset. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #142

Do you look both ways before crossing a street? tazkcmo Jun 2022 #182

lol ok nt Torchlight Jun 2022 #87

Post removed Post removed Jun 2022 #116

Hadn't heard for a while, but Fla Dem Jun 2022 #29

EVERYONE around me has gotten it recently. What some call "hysteria" is simply Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #122

Cases at our hospital are back up to March numbers. AllyCat Jun 2022 #48

Yeah, the unvaxed and volenerable need to take precautions, that's a known known uponit7771 Jun 2022 #70

Mask wearing is more important than hand washing. n/t Ms. Toad Jun 2022 #92

I think so too. StarryNite Jun 2022 #98

True - but I was responsing to someone who has chosen to do one - Ms. Toad Jun 2022 #101

By About 4 Orders Of Magnitude ProfessorGAC Jun 2022 #131

Yup - but that awareness comes at a cost. Ms. Toad Jun 2022 #156

I accept your apology and expect better from you in the future. Iggo Jun 2022 #192

I haven't stopped masking Marthe48 Jun 2022 #7

"Traitor's plague" AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #10

I've called it that for awhile Marthe48 Jun 2022 #26

Me neither. We're elderly and don't go out a lot, tho. However, I mask up in the supermarket and any CTyankee Jun 2022 #36

With changes on policy Marthe48 Jun 2022 #49

Just think about seasonal flu, which has been largely supressed because of masking. CTyankee Jun 2022 #54

Keep on! Excelsior! Marthe48 Jun 2022 #56

My list never gets finished, it seems. I check one thing off and another pops on... CTyankee Jun 2022 #60

I admire you Marthe48 Jun 2022 #77

I will probably die broke, but I plan to spend down what I have on travel. CTyankee Jun 2022 #78

Sounds wonderful Marthe48 Jun 2022 #100

Consciously day dream it. CTyankee Jun 2022 #117

We have friends who were fully vaxxed and got it in March AllyCat Jun 2022 #62

Looking at other sources, I think this article is a bit alarmist RAB910 Jun 2022 #9

It's as bad as what the article states AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #12

The article is not talking about long haul Covid. It's talking about two new variants of Omicron RAB910 Jun 2022 #15

What I'm saying AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #18

If this is as bad as this article claims, why are we not seeing other similar articles or warnings RAB910 Jun 2022 #20

They faced so much pressure to change their guidelines pandr32 Jun 2022 #53

I think we should deal in facts not speculation or conspiracy theories RAB910 Jun 2022 #63

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2022 #71

Facts: TheProle Jun 2022 #73

There is a lot of data at the link RAB910 Jun 2022 #75

Not specifically. TheProle Jun 2022 #93

You can do a search on this. pandr32 Jun 2022 #107

This is behind a paywall, for me RAB910 Jun 2022 #115

How about this one? pandr32 Jun 2022 #134

The author seems to be doing a lot of second guessing which he then tries to claim RAB910 Jun 2022 #190

CDC - Omicron sub-variants BA.4, BA.5 account for 21% of COVID variants in U.S. AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #111

Did you notice these two paragraphs? RAB910 Jun 2022 #119

It is alarming AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #125

Covid has become regional RAB910 Jun 2022 #191

Yes, I am glad to see that numbers in my county in New York are improving, but for how long? liberal_mama Jun 2022 #205

The trick is to mask before it overruns your area. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #123

Some of the home tests are being counted. louis-t Jun 2022 #17

Vastly under reported AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #19

I agree. A lot of people don't even test. louis-t Jun 2022 #23

Agree. Trying to do my part in not spreading in our family and others. Seems like more wiggs Jun 2022 #21

I've never stopped masking. Gore1FL Jun 2022 #22

same here NJCher Jun 2022 #140

+1 it's not a big deal at all Withywindle Jun 2022 #167

I haven't stopped :) Auggie Jun 2022 #24

+1 n/t area51 Jun 2022 #85

Caught it on my Kenya visit. Evaded my immunity and my boosted vaccine JCMach1 Jun 2022 #27

I've had two boosters Joe Nation Jun 2022 #28

I'm continuing to do pretty much what I've been doing Ocelot II Jun 2022 #30

Larimer County, CO moreland01 Jun 2022 #31

I never stopped masking indoors around people IronLionZion Jun 2022 #32

Was 2nd Boosted on May 20th ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2022 #33

2nd boosted April 22. roamer65 Jun 2022 #38

Went to the grocery store Monday. TNNurse Jun 2022 #34

Good on ya, Nurse! cilla4progress Jun 2022 #51

I considered that option as well. TNNurse Jun 2022 #82

Still masking. One of the best, most practical ideas appalachiablue Jun 2022 #35

Wear it every store I enter, since March 2020. twodogsbarking Jun 2022 #37

Same here, I only forgot to pull up my mask appalachiablue Jun 2022 #43

i always carry mine and if the situation warrants it i mask up.. samnsara Jun 2022 #39

N95 Always Desert_Leslie Jun 2022 #40

I use the Envo as well, with LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #155

I'll look for that mask - thanks. Pinback Jun 2022 #165

I know more people who've had Covid in the last couple months than in all of 2020-2021 chia Jun 2022 #41

And did they need to be hospitalized? SoonerPride Jun 2022 #81

No, none of them. Not my point, though. chia Jun 2022 #88

My point is that the vaccines work. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #90

Ignoring disease prevention is getting harder and harder to defend from a scientific basis. Ms. Toad Jun 2022 #94

We aren't getting to Covid zero. SoonerPride Jun 2022 #95

Did I say we were? Ms. Toad Jun 2022 #99

So here's the deal SoonerPride Jun 2022 #102

1. The people who are suffering long-term consequences - or will suffer the long-term consequences Ms. Toad Jun 2022 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author SoonerPride Jun 2022 #106

So almost half hospitalized have symptoms 4 months down the road Johnny2X2X Jun 2022 #108

The story at Ms. Toad's link says: Mariana Jun 2022 #147

Not almost half of hospitalized - Ms. Toad Jun 2022 #157

Not true. Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #179

I know a number who did not need to be hospitalized but who have long Covid now. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #124

i never quit wearing mine . AllaN01Bear Jun 2022 #44

Doctors and family are the only times I venture going anywhere.l Butterflylady Jun 2022 #45

My son got a positive test last week and his day program was cancelled all this week because kimbutgar Jun 2022 #46

I am still wearing my mask most places LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2022 #47

Please remember to overtip your delivery driver if you can. intheflow Jun 2022 #50

Always do that. Minimum $7.00 for pickup deliveries, haele Jun 2022 #127

I never stopped masking wryter2000 Jun 2022 #55

Could be more breakthrough infections combined StarryNite Jun 2022 #58

Subject tangent lambchopp59 Jun 2022 #59

Wait a second... LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #153

Then you're not isolated. Yes there is a laughable extreme: lambchopp59 Jun 2022 #159

My point is this... LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #164

Enough. lambchopp59 Jun 2022 #194

Addendum lambchopp59 Jun 2022 #196

No need to apologize for my sensitivity. LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #198

Please get help. lambchopp59 Jun 2022 #203

Bye now. LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #204

I don't understand why it's a laughable extreme liberal_mama Jun 2022 #199

Thank a Trump supporter today!!!!!! SuperCoder Jun 2022 #61

I flew yesterday spinbaby Jun 2022 #65

Have been watching FDA VRBPAC's meeting to discuss/vote on EUA amendments for Moderna for ages 6- 17 BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #66

My niece just had it. She has RA so she had 2 shots leftyladyfrommo Jun 2022 #67

This is neither alarmist nor a "conspiracy theory" Another Jackalope Jun 2022 #74

Keeping stocked up on KN95s and KF94s musette_sf Jun 2022 #79

Sorry, but no. I am in a completely different situ than most here anyway. Celerity Jun 2022 #83

You do understand you can still be a carrier, even if you never have symptoms and are fully vaxxed? Tommymac Jun 2022 #166

The odds are extraordinarily low (for the reasons I listed in detail) that either of us will carry Celerity Jun 2022 #171

I've been continuing to mask - Ms. Toad Jun 2022 #96

I'll wear mine if a venue requires it. Elessar Zappa Jun 2022 #97

I always wear a mask (N95) anywhere indoors. Raftergirl Jun 2022 #105

I haven't stopped wearing a mask Sunsky Jun 2022 #109

Never stopped, really Hekate Jun 2022 #110

I'm waiting to just before school starts up again to get my next booster since I Quixote1818 Jun 2022 #112

I was thinking of doing the same. I've had 5 vaccines this year (3 covid, 2 shingles) Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #135

Here is some info on this I found earlier Quixote1818 Jun 2022 #160

That's the best digest of the information I've seen! I didn't realize that for healthy Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #161

Never stopped. All I have started doing is double masking again. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2022 #126

Number of cases is irrelevant. It's whether or not hospitalizations are dramatically increasing beaglelover Jun 2022 #129

I Faux pas Jun 2022 #132

i really never stopped masking orleans Jun 2022 #139

My brother in law was hospitalized with Delta and again two weeks ago w Covid. BrightKnight Jun 2022 #143

The CDC isn't helping to stop the spread. Farmer-Rick Jun 2022 #150

there's a popular narrative that covid is in some sense ending... paulkienitz Jun 2022 #151

COVID isn't going to be stopped. Ace Rothstein Jun 2022 #169

This message was self-deleted by its author Ace Rothstein Jun 2022 #170

June 15, 2020 was the first time it ended around these parts. Iggo Jun 2022 #200

why the hell isn't the CDC allowing people to get boosters? Takket Jun 2022 #163

A virus that kills quickly isn't a 'good' virus. Aussie105 Jun 2022 #168

I do. I admit I stopped for a good while, but I'm back in the game! C Moon Jun 2022 #176

I mask up, social distance, wash hands regularly, isolate when I can (no going out if possible) Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2022 #177

A friend who just moved to Eugene, OR, texted us yesterday and Roisin Ni Fiachra Jun 2022 #188

I have never stopped masking or social distancing, even though fully vaccinated... DemocraticPatriot Jun 2022 #189

This is why obnoxiousdrunk Jun 2022 #193

I've never stopped wearing an N95 or KF94 mask everywhere. I live in New York State and liberal_mama Jun 2022 #195

I've been vacationing in England and Scotland the last 2 weeks Shrek Jun 2022 #197

Has anyone been following Dr. Bob Wachter on Twitter? He's always trying to minimize and justify liberal_mama Jun 2022 #206

I just wanted to share that I visited the gldstwmn Jun 2022 #208