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Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 05:14 PM Oct 2012

I disagree that we as a country need a divorce, aka split in half. [View all]

It would not be very liberal of us to set loose 56 million bigots (see: voters who went for McCain and Palin despite all their craziness) and leave them to fend for themselves. It is sheer insanity that we would separate ourselves from so many wrong-headed people.

Think of it like having a violent husband who beats the living tar out of you and every time you call the cops he has a vote in whether justice is served. Oh and he pays the cops more than you can so the cops keep siding with him. Think of it as the co-tenant of the apartment building who keeps setting your shit on fire every time you have an argument, or who bashes in your car's windows because you're black. Would you have these menaces removed? No, because that's insensitive and uncharitable, you'd be abandoning them to the elements. Even as they're breaking your legs and spiking your food, you must keep them around and try to convince them of what's right!

Truly charitable Americans would much rather keep trying to convince these people to see the light even when every effort we make intensifies their outbursts of rage. It's downright uncharitable for us to choose to move on without them when we could take the noble route. That route, of course, has the right wing crazies engaging in rampant obstructionism, holding the nation ransom, at a bloody standstill, until it is simply too late to avoid a total collapse from global warming or an economic meltdown, aka "Starve the Blue Beast". We must work with them no matter how many schools they privatize, no matter how many jobs they move overseas, no matter how much money gets hidden in the Cayman Islands, no matter how many states allow rapists to seek joint custody of the children they sired through violence, no matter how much welfare gets cut, no matter how many roads or whole cities get privatized (see: Governor Rick Snyder's city managers).

We must keep America together, even if it means we all get brought down by the political rioters and ruffians they call the Conservative movement. If the Republicans must take America to hell with their madness then by God we're obligated to go with them!



Okay, now this is sarcasm, of course. But the fact is, even if we do take Congress and retain the Presidency, you do not stop 56 million crazy hard-headed nutbags without doing additional, phenomenal damage to the country. These people will severely poison the political well for decades beyond today. We will have to fight them in countless statehouse elections, and they will bombard us on all fronts with corporate money.

Do you see how tough the GOP is at the ballot box now, after all this madness? Wait'll they change up their strategy with a Marc Rubio approach. Romney's an overt nutjob, Rubio knows how to hide it much better. Rubio will charm people with his superior (to Romney) public relations skills and when he gets into office... we'll take a full 50 year step backward. He is a classic Stealth corporate statist.

I know tons of people will throw a fit of absolute RAGE at the idea of America splitting in half but this much is absolutely certain and undeniable: as much as you hate what America will look like split in half, you will hate it even worse when we go to hell-on-earth together, with the GOP dragging us screaming into the abyss. And even with a population of 300 million, no country can survives the disastrous effects of 56 million people trying their damnedest to pull America down.

It is completely, hopelessly, no, laughably impossible, for America to survive another half-century as one nation.

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I disagree too gollygee Oct 2012 #1
Actually, no we wouldn't. Zalatix Oct 2012 #2
that is my fear as well quinnox Oct 2012 #3
What you fear will happen anyway. Zalatix Oct 2012 #7
Sure because none of those 56 million McCain voters lived in "blue" states, did they? Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #4
Your map doesn't change a thing about the reality that we cannot stay united. Zalatix Oct 2012 #10
An average of four in ten voters in "red states" vote Democratic. Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #11
Not to mention that half the eligible people don't vote leftstreet Oct 2012 #13
Which means the other consequence I believe I mentioned in the OP Zalatix Oct 2012 #14
"kick their asses out of Washington DC" Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #15
Not totally eliminate, but create a veto-proof Dem majority. Same thing. Zalatix Oct 2012 #17
Do you have any idea how bizarre you sound? SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2012 #18
Okay. I sound bizarre to you. I don't care. Zalatix Oct 2012 #19
You really need to look up "veto-proof" Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #23
The GOP is dying. Its supporting demographic is dwindling. Zalatix Oct 2012 #27
In order to get a veto proof majority SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2012 #26
what is crazy is apologizing argiel1234 Oct 2012 #24
how do you propose to do that? Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #22
I think we can muster enough votes to win Congress this Nov 6 or the next 4 years. Zalatix Oct 2012 #25
Maybe some day we'll even get a black President leftstreet Oct 2012 #5
some days, I think "Fuck 'em...." mike_c Oct 2012 #6
yep quinnox Oct 2012 #8
If you'd be willing to let JoeyT Oct 2012 #20
I'd have to agree Flatpicker Oct 2012 #9
The consequences of staying together are just as bad. Zalatix Oct 2012 #16
Who gets the kids? trof Oct 2012 #12
there are not 56 million bigots argiel1234 Oct 2012 #21
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