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35. That's rather patronising to our Ukrainian allies, don't you think?

Wed Jun 22, 2022, 08:34 AM

Jun 2022

They take reasonable steps to protect their democracy, and no one says anything about it. I merely posit a similar course of action to protect our democracy, and point to an example of it being done, and it's all, Well, they're not like us, you see. We can't expect them to be as [virtuous, righteous, good, insert positive adjective here] as we are.

That sounds an awful lot like the colonisers' view of Africans from 150 years ago, "We cant expect them to be like us." Or a line from Janis Ian's song "Society's Child": "But, honey, he's not our kind."

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I have an honest question [View all] Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 OP

my opinion on this has always been NJCher Jun 2022 #1

I don't see why we should even permit a traitorous party Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #4

Start banning one political party, and pretty soon yours will be banned too. Ocelot II Jun 2022 #5

Maybe that's a reason to get out in front of them Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #10

You might want to audit a course in constitutional law. Ocelot II Jun 2022 #14

Or read it at some point. iemanja Jun 2022 #23

Right...because if you get rid of the Republican Party, all of its members will magically disappear brooklynite Jun 2022 #65

That is exactly how the Trumpsters describe Democrats. iemanja Jun 2022 #7

We all know Trumpsters are traitorous troglodytes Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #12

Because the First Amendment to the Constitution includes the right Ocelot II Jun 2022 #2

The first amendment doesn't give a criminal and terrorist organisation Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #8

Maybe we can set up a committee Sympthsical Jun 2022 #11

+1 for the callout of Robespierre-ian short-sightedness TheProle Jun 2022 #42

Unless an organization or political party engages *solely* in unprotected activity, Ocelot II Jun 2022 #13

To quote Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, probably a meaningless name to you. tritsofme Jun 2022 #17

I'm well aware of "Justice" O.W. Holmes, Jr. Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #18

Authoritarians, such as yourself, always have excuses for why things are different this time tritsofme Jun 2022 #26

Tankies gotta tank AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2022 #55

It would be unconstitutional. TomSlick Jun 2022 #3

JFC iemanja Jun 2022 #6

Autocracy?? Who said anything about an Autocracy? Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #9

You want to abolish the opposition iemanja Jun 2022 #15

We're supplying Ukraine with billions of dollars with/for weapons Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #20

Ukraine has a young and unstable democracy. iemanja Jun 2022 #21

That's rather patronising to our Ukrainian allies, don't you think? Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #35

It's an accurate statement iemanja Jun 2022 #38

What about them? If they had any true honour and loyalty to country, Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #39

And even stronger democracies, like the UK, Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #40

This is exactly what is threatening some of the fledgling democracies in Europe Cheezoholic Jun 2022 #16

One party rule ... NO thanks! 👎 nt Raine Jun 2022 #19

It would be the DEMOCRATIC Party, I would remind. But it need not be a one-party rule Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #22

And when those parties disagree with the one true party? Fla_Democrat Jun 2022 #29

So do you suppose the GOP would ever join any of those parties? But they could vote as Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #32

Your suggestion is to have a dictatorship...that is what one party rule is...no. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #33

WHY do people imagine that conservative voters disappear if the Republican Party does? brooklynite Jun 2022 #66

So zero conservative opposition? Polybius Jun 2022 #68

California doesn't have any meaningful opposition parties Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #70

But Republicans are allowed to run Polybius Jun 2022 #78

Exactly how would the government go about legally banning a political party? Dysfunctional Jun 2022 #24

There is no way to go about it legally. Ocelot II Jun 2022 #25

The Ukrainian parliament passed a bill last month and President Zelensky signed into law Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #27

The Communism Control Act was passed at the height of the Red Scare Ocelot II Jun 2022 #28

Even if the Court said such an act was "unconstitutional," Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #73

No we can't. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #31

We have a constitutional Republic and free speech...so no we can't. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #30

Huh? I'll put this in the "Why do/didn't Democrats allow/let Republicans do bad things?" file. betsuni Jun 2022 #34

You went to outlaw the Republican Party? Bucky Jun 2022 #36

Well, actually, it was/is Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #37

Thank you for asking this question. Jedi Guy Jun 2022 #41

Yeah! And then we can hold rallies! AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2022 #43

That seems a little gauche and ostentatious, doesn't it? (N/t) Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #48

I'm not the one who wants to crush our enemies beneath our heel... AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2022 #50

On second thought... Iggo Jun 2022 #44

It's a question you should think about longer before posting. MineralMan Jun 2022 #45

I think the problem is that this person has thought quite a bit, just prefers tyranny. tritsofme Jun 2022 #46

Perhaps. I don't know. I do know that not a lot of thought went into it. MineralMan Jun 2022 #47

I take great exception to that Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #51

Laughable. The Democratic Party is not tyrannical, you are. tritsofme Jun 2022 #53

Oh, come on Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #54

Come on yourself. tritsofme Jun 2022 #56

I am NOT advocating the Democratic Party embrace tyranny Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #58

Of course you are, whether you choose to pretend or not. tritsofme Jun 2022 #63

Can you name any single power states that weren't totalitarian? EX500rider Jun 2022 #67

California Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #71

You mean the place where Ronald Reagan was once governor EX500rider Jun 2022 #75

I mean the place that now has no meaningful opposition Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #76

Should they do people can vote for whoever they want EX500rider Jun 2022 #77

I think that Conservatism is an outdated, illogical, and unhelpful ideology. Caliman73 Jun 2022 #49

I'm not ForgedCrank Jun 2022 #52

All right. I surrender. Mea culpa Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #57

It's not a living document to many Polybius Jun 2022 #69

I care not one whit what dead Scalia had to say even as to the price of butter Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #72

Many of us believe it to be dead as well Polybius Jun 2022 #79

Why not charge the Republican Party under the RICO Statute? The Protagonist Jun 2022 #59

Hey. There's an idea Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #61

They can't be a democracy if they can do that. treestar Jun 2022 #60

What, Ukraine? We say they are. Seeking Serenity Jun 2022 #62

Then a somewhat flawed one treestar Jun 2022 #64

I would be satisfied if our media/county simply just labeled them for what they are Cosmocat Jun 2022 #74