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LuckyCharms

(22,299 posts) Fri Jun 24, 2022, 10:50 AM Jun 2022

I keep hearing talk about states potentially prohibiting interstate travel to get abortions. [View all]

As a practical matter, how the hell can that even be done?

You live in PA and travel to OH to visit your sister. For discussion, I'm assuming that OH would be a state where abortion rights are not threatened. May not be the case, but anyway...

While you are there, you get an abortion.

Prohibiting travel to another state where abortion is legal, and then punishing someone for doing so, in my mind, is equivalent to someone who lives in a non-legal pot state traveling to a legal pot state, smoking pot while there, and then getting arrested when you return to your home state, for smoking pot in another state.

Monitoring interstate travel, and preventing the performance of a legal act while in the state you travelled to, is the exact same thing as putting an immovable ball and chain on the ankles of women.

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I keep hearing talk about states potentially prohibiting interstate travel to get abortions. [View all] LuckyCharms Jun 2022 OP

This is a can of worms best not opened by these christofascist scumbags. roamer65 Jun 2022 #1

But they're christoFascist scumbags MyMission Jun 2022 #31

Look up The Fugitive Slave Act. no_hypocrisy Jun 2022 #2

Just did. Only have time to briefly scan it to get the gist. LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #5

Repealed by Congress. 1864 no_hypocrisy Jun 2022 #29

Got it. Thank you! LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #70

Stop cars going over the states borders.. Texaswitchy Jun 2022 #3

What was the purpose of the stops? LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #7

Fruit and vegetables. Texaswitchy Jun 2022 #8

OK, thanks, I understand, but... LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #12

I do not think the Republicans would care. Texaswitchy Jun 2022 #21

Doesn't matter what they want in this case. LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #22

I hope so. Texaswitchy Jun 2022 #25

I hear you. LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #28

Pandora's box Texaswitchy Jun 2022 #36

Those check stations are permanent. 2naSalit Jun 2022 #78

But they weren't manned last time I went through (March) Angleae Jun 2022 #84

That's interesting. 2naSalit Jun 2022 #85

To see if you were bringing in any fruits or vegetables. mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2022 #10

thank you. LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #13

Yes. Texaswitchy Jun 2022 #14

Or guns! Samrob Jun 2022 #51

CA still does - agricultural inspections Retrograde Jun 2022 #33

I was a little teenager at the time. Texaswitchy Jun 2022 #39

It will absolutely get tested in court Fiendish Thingy Jun 2022 #4

And they will choose against those rights. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #11

Yep. The next step is an outright nationwide ban. Novara Jun 2022 #57

Let them try... Moostache Jun 2022 #6

Interstate Commerce modrepub Jun 2022 #9

Because waste would be considered to have a higher value than a woman. nt woodsprite Jun 2022 #16

They will find Mad_Machine76 Jun 2022 #17

If they restrict abortion clinic traffic, then we can tell those shitbag states to shove their waste roamer65 Jun 2022 #32

States Like NY and NJ modrepub Jun 2022 #43

TX? roamer65 Jun 2022 #44

Just for the record Mad_Machine76 Jun 2022 #15

Thanks. I assumed that, but I just used those states as an example because LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #19

The Michigan Court of Claims blocked enforcement of the 1931 abortion ban. roamer65 Jun 2022 #34

They won't be able to stop travel, but they can charge a woman after the fact. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #18

How though? The abortion was a legal act in the state in which LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #20

Red states are working on a way to make this illegal for their state residents. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #40

I don't think they can punish someone for something done in another state where it was LisaL Jun 2022 #41

Doesn't matter Cosmocat Jun 2022 #56

Who is "they"? Who is going to fund the enforcement and prosecution of this? LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #64

They don't care Cosmocat Jun 2022 #71

Feds have washed their hands of the abortion issue. LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #73

One would think Novara Jun 2022 #69

I know what you are saying, but by my way of thinking... LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #47

The GOP is doing a lot of things which others say cannot be done. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #53

They can't restrict travel unles they go full and complete fascist, and LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #58

Well... 2naSalit Jun 2022 #81

Two thoughts on this: LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #82

I agree with you... 2naSalit Jun 2022 #83

I agree 100%. LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #87

Sadly, yes. 2naSalit Jun 2022 #88

There ARE still medical privacy laws in this country...until Thomas/Alito decide to trash 'em. nt allegorical oracle Jun 2022 #49

There is no privacy when you are committing a crime. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #54

Excellent point. LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #66

wake up DonCoquixote Jun 2022 #23

I'm wide awake. What are they going to do? keep tabs on every single woman LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #24

yes DonCoquixote Jun 2022 #26

at this rate DonCoquixote Jun 2022 #27

Who will be performing the enforcement (for the rest of time, going forward)? LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #35

easy,. the same way texas did it's bounty hutner sytem DonCoquixote Jun 2022 #37

Who will train and coordinate the volunteers? LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #55

Wouldn't equating abortion as murder make it illegal? BadgerKid Jun 2022 #30

But the court has not done that. LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #42

OH is a republican controlled state. LisaL Jun 2022 #38

They will outlaw it, Miguelito Loveless Jun 2022 #45

Who pays for all of this? LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #59

I am sure they have lots of programs for the poor Miguelito Loveless Jun 2022 #90

Mebbe checkpoints where all females 12 to 47 must pass a pregnancy test... allegorical oracle Jun 2022 #46

So they will pull the women over and make them wait in a holding area. LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #61

Especially white women and girls. Texaswitchy Jun 2022 #79

This SC probably would rule AGAINST any decision that a future Democratic congress passes. bluestarone Jun 2022 #48

What's next? Pregnancy prison camps? This country has so gone to hell. Vinca Jun 2022 #50

The court either does not know, or does not care about LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #63

Sounds like those things cost money ck4829 Jun 2022 #52

For the traveler you mean? LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #62

For the state. For the police. ck4829 Jun 2022 #74

Yes, you bet! LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2022 #60

Traffic Stop... mackdaddy Jun 2022 #65

I understand why some are scared Zeitghost Jun 2022 #67

I don't think it will either. LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #68

Exactly Zeitghost Jun 2022 #80

I guess you would Meowmee Jun 2022 #72

They can either have random snitches do it, which will cause LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #77

Yes that would make it harder maybe Meowmee Jun 2022 #91

Abortion rights are under threat in Ohio Marthe48 Jun 2022 #76

I remember when people in MA went to NH to buy cigarettes. Dysfunctional Jun 2022 #86

Yes, I think you're right. LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #89