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JoanofArgh

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11. During Obama's first term definitely. I clearly remember all the discussion about this and

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Mon Jun 27, 2022, 02:17 PM

Jun 2022

am guessing she got some pressure from the Obama admin as well

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When should RBG have stepped down? [View all] TDale313 Jun 2022 OP

Before the Rs took back the Senate under Obama. House of Roberts Jun 2022 #1

She couldn't have known that Republicans would pull the stunt they did. W_HAMILTON Jun 2022 #8

Well said emulatorloo Jun 2022 #14

As far as YOU can tell, House of Roberts Jun 2022 #25

Fair enough. And I believe you are correct. OTOH Some of them are blue checks emulatorloo Jun 2022 #28

Lot of people here too pushing the same thing even now, many of them long term members. Lancero Jun 2022 #66

They are. W_HAMILTON Jun 2022 #45

From the OP: "...when could she have stepped down safely..." House of Roberts Jun 2022 #23

I think OP is actually posting against revisionist history. Here's a quote. emulatorloo Jun 2022 #31

Did you? W_HAMILTON Jun 2022 #46

Disagree..she was smart, savvy and knew the repukes as well or better than anyone PortTack Jun 2022 #47

And by virtue of her being smart and saavy... W_HAMILTON Jun 2022 #50

Agree...but still the dye was already cast. Even if it wasn't this bad, we needed a chance to maintain PortTack Jun 2022 #55

We had a chance. A very easy, obvious chance. W_HAMILTON Jun 2022 #56

Yes I can't count the number of times I posted 2 words..remember SCOTUS PortTack Jun 2022 #57

Unless she lost re-election in 2020 Polybius Jun 2022 #60

Which would involve dumbasses doing the same thing in 2020... W_HAMILTON Jun 2022 #62

The idea that electing Hillary would have changed nothing is just not true. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #78

I love her more than Biden, and wanted her to run in 2020 Polybius Jun 2022 #80

Democrats held the Senate until 2015 tinrobot Jun 2022 #2

And the filibuster for SCOTUS nominees was still in effect wryter2000 Jun 2022 #43

So her goal was to what...? Beautiful Disaster Jun 2022 #65

She wasn't sick in 2012 wryter2000 Jun 2022 #67

Yes she was. She suffered this illness for a long time. And she was old and courts matter. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #82

She first underwent surgery for pancreatic cancer in 2009. Crunchy Frog Jun 2022 #90

In 2014, she was 81 years old. Beautiful Disaster Jun 2022 #103

Before he lost the Senate, Obama nominated and the Senate approved Justice Sonia Sotomayor. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #81

Not as liberal as her, no, but I'm sure there could have been a pro-Roe winner nt sir pball Jun 2022 #96

During Obama's first two years. She was already ill...she was a good person but all her work Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #3

Post removed Post removed Jun 2022 #4

had she stepped down by 2015, roe would not have been overturned AlexSFCA Jun 2022 #5

Repubs were already blocking Obama's nominees. TDale313 Jun 2022 #7

They might have wanted to, but having TWO seats vacant could have been different karynnj Jun 2022 #36

They couldn't block a nominee until the GOP won the Senate...she should have stepped down in Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #73

Yes it would... just not as fully FBaggins Jun 2022 #10

Is this sort of forensic analysis helpful? Duncan Grant Jun 2022 #6

Probably because twitterlandia and Reddit are on a tear about how "evil" RBG is and how it is emulatorloo Jun 2022 #12

Thank you. Duncan Grant Jun 2022 #21

... emulatorloo Jun 2022 #22

It's just as valid as the sizeable "it all comes down to 2016" crowd here. nt Doremus Jun 2022 #32

Never mention that woman from "The Hunger" here. Ever. (nt) Duncan Grant Jun 2022 #42

You mean the political activist who was a surrogate for Nader, Edwards and Sanders who has betsuni Jun 2022 #61

Niagara Falls! Slowly I turned, inch by inch, step by step... Duncan Grant Jun 2022 #63

This is Democratic Underground, a forum for supporters of Democrats, not Republicans or 3rd parties. betsuni Jun 2022 #64

Niagara Falls! (nt) Duncan Grant Jun 2022 #79

THis is why we need to reform the court MadameButterfly Jun 2022 #9

The people determine the court through elections iemanja Jun 2022 #17

Agreed inthewind21 Jun 2022 #69

We can't reform the SCOTUS. It is a separate but equal branch of our Government, we don't Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #84

During Obama's first term definitely. I clearly remember all the discussion about this and JoanofArgh Jun 2022 #11

It wouldn't have mattered iemanja Jun 2022 #13

I don't think you can argue she didn't have a clear window of time n/t 867-5309. Jun 2022 #15

It is what it is PuraVidaDreamin Jun 2022 #16

When should we stop blaming Democrats for things the GOP does? FSogol Jun 2022 #18

Jeff Tiedrich, is that you? Duncan Grant Jun 2022 #27

That's a little reductive. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2022 #51

Thank you wryter2000 Jun 2022 #88

If RBG retired before the 2014 midterms, the 60 vote filibuster was in effect LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2022 #19

If Republicans filibustered a SCOTUS pick in 2014, I have no doubt Reid would have gone nuclear tritsofme Jun 2022 #26

The existence of the 60 vote requirement would have meant that Obama would have selected a moderate LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2022 #34

Well, we ended up with Amy Coney Barrett. tritsofme Jun 2022 #38

Why the ever loving inthewind21 Jun 2022 #76

Kennedy and Breyer made a different strategic choice. tritsofme Jun 2022 #83

Speaking of Kennedy inthewind21 Jun 2022 #86

I'm not really sure what this means. Kennedy and Breyer chose to retire tritsofme Jun 2022 #92

Woulda, coulda, shoulda ornotna Jun 2022 #20

When should Mitch McConnell have stepped down? When should the entire Democratic Senate ... Hekate Jun 2022 #24

I'm very specifically not in the OP... TDale313 Jun 2022 #33

It is starting to seep into the talking heads & interviews with young political women on TV... Hekate Jun 2022 #39

Yeah, we're on the same page. TDale313 Jun 2022 #40

She clearly should have retired before 2015, plenty of people said this at the time. tritsofme Jun 2022 #29

Yep. A good time might have been when the colon cancer returned. Or when it became metastatic. keep_left Jun 2022 #48

It was a real weird time Sympthsical Jun 2022 #52

Exactly, I feel much more sorrow than anger towards RBG for how it worked out tritsofme Jun 2022 #54

I know that RBG is not the villain here...the GOP is the villain but I am still pissed at her Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #74

It doesn't matter sarisataka Jun 2022 #30

Now do Brewer. tenderfoot Jun 2022 #35

Are you reading the post? TDale313 Jun 2022 #37

I know you mean well wryter2000 Jun 2022 #41

When Obama asked her to lunch and suggested it. BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #44

Who is saying she had no choice but to hang on? onenote Jun 2022 #70

It has forever changed her legacy. That is the truth...much of which she did and stood for Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #75

Whatever. BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #85

OK Behind the Aegis Jun 2022 #49

Yes. As I said in the op, TDale313 Jun 2022 #53

I think all justices should step down by 78, preferably much sooner. ecstatic Jun 2022 #58

Many Justices never step down Polybius Jun 2022 #59

Souter hated Washington and his attitude toward the court really soured after Bush v. Gore Midwestern Democrat Jun 2022 #101

Doesn't matter anymore... Iggo Jun 2022 #68

It seems to have been a contributing factor in Breyer's choice to retire when he did. Crunchy Frog Jun 2022 #93

Be here, now. H2O Man Jun 2022 #71

Why did Al Gore not fight harder to get the Florida votes counted? Buckeyeblue Jun 2022 #72

Oh please...I have but one thing to say...FUCK NADER. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #77

I just posted this because it's more than RBG not retiring that got us to this place Buckeyeblue Jun 2022 #98

No doubt about that...but every seat counts and she should have retired. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #99

She wanted the first woman president to select Emile Jun 2022 #87

I thought, at the time, that she should have stepped down before the 2012 election. Crunchy Frog Jun 2022 #89

None of this matters. What happen now and in the future matters. Dysfunctional Jun 2022 #91

doesn't matter..that's the past Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #94

Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. Crunchy Frog Jun 2022 #95

2014 pstokely Jun 2022 #97

let's face it Skittles Jun 2022 #100

Jim Mora said it best. "Woulda, coulda, shoulda. Justice Ginsberg didn't know, much less anyone else BunkieBandit Jun 2022 #102