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sofa king

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13. I was just writing about that.
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 01:58 PM
Nov 2012
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=197998

The short version is this: Pollsters and media have an interest in toying with their numbers to keep the race close... for a while.

But if the pollsters blow the call on the eve of the election, they risk losing out entirely in subsequent elections.

Suddenly, the President's numbers are jumping outside of statistical ties in many of the battleground states. (One doesn't have to blame poll manipulation on that, though I do; it can also be explained by his competence shown this week in dealing with Sandy.)

That, in turn, has lifted the skirt of the electronic election thieves, who appear to me to mostly work within the margin of error in the polls. If the race is a statistical tie, they can game the machines to produce the result they wish without fear of discovery.

But if it isn't a statistical tie, the thieves risk being caught by producing an anomalous result, which is in none of their interests.

And that, I think, is why Ohio is suddenly issuing an "experimental" patch for their voting machines. Not because they're trying to steal it, but because, all too suddenly for them, they realize that they can't steal it, and now they have to un-steal it or risk being caught.

If I am correct, we can expect to see something similar happen in Virginia today or tomorrow, because the President also threatens to break out of a statistical tie before the election in Virginia.

Virginia uses multiple different types of voting machines, so the circumstantial kicker would be a series of "experimental" patches across multiple platforms, rather than machines made by just one manufacturer.



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The vote flipping happens in the central tabulators SubgeniusHasSlack Nov 2012 #1
I'm not talking about "how" it's done DefenseLawyer Nov 2012 #2
I'm only speculating but my guess is all of the above. Voice for Peace Nov 2012 #11
But they don't all necessarily have the same goal DefenseLawyer Nov 2012 #12
I was just writing about that. sofa king Nov 2012 #13
Who is they? DefenseLawyer Nov 2012 #14
"They," in this case... sofa king Nov 2012 #20
I'm not disagreeing with you by the way DefenseLawyer Nov 2012 #23
Oh, I didn't think you were! sofa king Nov 2012 #27
Yep they can't bump it for Rmoney this time marions ghost Nov 2012 #17
Agree... marions ghost Nov 2012 #15
It's the Republicans (campaign and local officials) and they are everywhere librechik Nov 2012 #3
There are only two possibilities IMO... slackmaster Nov 2012 #4
Ummmm, Lefta Dissenter Nov 2012 #7
Or one person at each of the affected companies who has access to the update server. drm604 Nov 2012 #9
Ohio is vulnerable flamingdem Nov 2012 #5
Here is the link to article flamingdem refers to: katanalori Nov 2012 #6
Also at that link by Bob Fitrakis: marions ghost Nov 2012 #28
In one of those studies that was done.. stillcool Nov 2012 #8
here is a link to the study.. stillcool Nov 2012 #10
I suggest Karl Rove suggests to candidate creative ways to win an election Democratopia Nov 2012 #16
it's a small network marions ghost Nov 2012 #18
If Jeb wants to run in '16 DefenseLawyer Nov 2012 #19
Hart InterCivic is the newly reconfigured "Diebold" marions ghost Nov 2012 #22
Many reasons Democratopia Nov 2012 #25
Wiki entry on Black Box Voting: Melinda Nov 2012 #21
I hope we can do the same. We have good computer people too. pwb Nov 2012 #24
It is best hidden through a cascade libertypirate Nov 2012 #26
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