General Discussion

Dragonbreathp9d

(2,542 posts)

21. Guess I should have phrased better

Sat Jan 14, 2012, 02:59 PM

Jan 2012

Things like education, environmental protection, gay and civil rights, constitutional protections, consumer protection, yadda yadda - these things should be guaranteed at a minimum at the national level- not restricted by- if states wish to go further in the venture of freedom they should be able to do so. The Paulites argue that NOTHING done on a national level is a good thing. Who cares if Rick Perry decides to end public education? Those kids should just move to California!

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

47 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

I am sick and tired of hearing the "leave it up to the states" argument [View all] Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 OP

libertarianism is a fine philosophical exercise. mopinko Jan 2012 #1

I find it amusing Lawlbringer Jan 2012 #2

The Civil Rights movement needs to free all debt slaves from the hard bondage of central banksterism phasma ex machina Jan 2012 #3

Me too. Here's one that really chaps my hide... Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #4

States Rights are biting Citizens United in the ass Zalatix Jan 2012 #5

I could have sworn my civics texts talked about the UNITED states of america. shouldn't that mean, niyad Jan 2012 #6

You mean like the "health care reform"? Edweird Jan 2012 #7

It would seem to me all these strict "Constitutionalists" really, really hate justiceischeap Jan 2012 #8

We need a new constitutional amendment further strengthening our Bill of rights think Jan 2012 #9

We tried a Confederacy. It failed. dawg Jan 2012 #10

Why do you hate democracy? oldhippie Jan 2012 #11

Guess I should have phrased better Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #21

Well, I guess you just made my point ....... oldhippie Jan 2012 #24

Equal opportunity and access to Education is a fundamental human right Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #28

OK, thanks. I understand your position completely oldhippie Jan 2012 #31

Or kind of like Abraham Lincoln or LBJ Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #32

Democracy undoubtedly is this best system Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #33

ok,ponder this DonCoquixote Jan 2012 #35

That situation is already covered under the Constitution oldhippie Jan 2012 #36

My dispute is that education and marriage ARE covered (albeit not expressly) under the constitution Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #38

I guess it must be in that invisible "prenumbra" thingee? oldhippie Jan 2012 #39

Or you know the 9th Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #40

Yep! oldhippie Jan 2012 #44

I Didn't care much about this season Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #45

disagreement DonCoquixote Jan 2012 #41

We should only "leave it up to the states" when the federal govenment won't do what we want. hughee99 Jan 2012 #12

Situational Democracy. What an interesting idea... n/t cherokeeprogressive Jan 2012 #13

I believe in the personal freedom to choose for one's self socialindependocrat Jan 2012 #14

Here, this graphic will make you happy... JackRiddler Jan 2012 #15

It is hard to find anything to like about the Republicans running so I do concur it's nice to have think Jan 2012 #18

Imagine the difference. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #20

He is not the worst in the field and I like your scenario Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #22

Until progressives speak up and give the youth alternatives they will unfortunately find RP think Jan 2012 #25

A minority, right? JackRiddler Jan 2012 #30

In the past states rights were used to justify slavery, and today it is used as a variation of the still_one Jan 2012 #16

So Delaware should be forced to have the same gun laws as Montana? Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #17

well put think Jan 2012 #19

My state is full of assholes! superpatriotman Jan 2012 #23

"Why the Articles of Confederation Failed" - a good primer bhikkhu Jan 2012 #26

What about Medical Marihuana? former9thward Jan 2012 #27

Refer to my above post Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #34

Not how govewrnment works or will ever work. former9thward Jan 2012 #42

THAT question was settled in 1865. bvar22 Jan 2012 #29

Happily recommend this thread. William769 Jan 2012 #37

Right wingers want some state they can capture and live in happily ever after treestar Jan 2012 #43

Agreed. ellisonz Jan 2012 #46

I just remind them that was the justification slave owners used. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #47