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The Doctor.

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34. There is no longer any question.

Thu Nov 1, 2012, 03:37 PM

Nov 2012

It's real. It's been happening. We caused it.

We know the difference between the isotopes in the regular CO2 cycle and the millions of years old C. The increase in CO2 was our doing. That is indisputable.

For the first time in the history of our climate, CO2 increase preceded warming. That means we kick-started the cycle.

The climate has never before seen increases in CO2 occur this quickly. We are in deep shit.

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We. Were. Warned. [View all] berni_mccoy Nov 2012 OP

Yep - climate change is still an inconvenient truth, even for Dems. polichick Nov 2012 #1

Back in theatre$ for a limited engagement? n/t win_in_06 Nov 2012 #2

Rightwing fuckers attack Al Gore for making money. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2012 #40

Can we do something to make that happen? Maraya1969 Nov 2012 #51

It would be a missed opportunity if it does NOT happen. n/t win_in_06 Nov 2012 #53

The problem is getting so serious... Junkdrawer Nov 2012 #3

It's so frustrating skygazer Nov 2012 #4

I know FirstLight Nov 2012 #10

We are having so much FRACKING in Los Angeles goclark Nov 2012 #33

I still can't figure out why anyone would vote for Romney! vlyons Nov 2012 #35

K&R Whovian Nov 2012 #5

That list of costliest Atlantic Hurricanes is a bit outdated LynneSin Nov 2012 #6

Thanks for that. berni_mccoy Nov 2012 #12

I was surprised that Tropical Storm Lee wasn't on there LynneSin Nov 2012 #24

Hmm... kenfrequed Nov 2012 #22

Not really, if anything it's probably lowball what the costs will be LynneSin Nov 2012 #23

Actually, that was what I was thinking kenfrequed Nov 2012 #65

Further down your link info changes a bit OnlinePoker Nov 2012 #57

A most excellent post. Uncle Joe Nov 2012 #7

The warning for Hurricane Sandy came a whole lot earlier than that slackmaster Nov 2012 #8

Sure, hurricanes happen. antigone382 Nov 2012 #27

My point is that the storm surge in NYC in 1821 was even higher than the one from Sandy slackmaster Nov 2012 #39

We were warned in 1958 in regards to the catastrophic dangers of global warming. Uncle Joe Nov 2012 #38

Like it or not, we need big business to recognize this. randome Nov 2012 #9

It may be some time before they recognize this ~ it will be when Zorra Nov 2012 #59

But I thought it was because of the gays Dont call me Shirley Nov 2012 #11

K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2012 #13

But, but, but I heard on Fox that global warming is just a hoax to make Al Gore's friends rich. Scuba Nov 2012 #14

Global Warming -- an evil lie spread by Libruls--OK to ignore it marions ghost Nov 2012 #15

Just heard Limbaugh quoted this morning as saying it's a hoax. LuckyLib Nov 2012 #20

When will Limbaull's peeps realize marions ghost Nov 2012 #29

And this from a month ago: 100 million to die by 2030 if world fails to act on climate ErikJ Nov 2012 #16

A superb post malaise Nov 2012 #17

the "good" thing about Sandy is the new freedom to discuss climate science grasswire Nov 2012 #18

Amen! And good luck to Michael Mann in his defamation lawsuit. Gabby Hayes Nov 2012 #61

Sandy has definitely changed the conversation pscot Nov 2012 #66

Yes, we were warned. And are still being warned. Aldo Leopold Nov 2012 #19

This year, after so many regions have been affected. caseymoz Nov 2012 #21

Quite a post! ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #25

If Katrina cost $108 billion, how can anybody say Sandy is in the range of $50 billion? BlueStreak Nov 2012 #26

No Camille in 1969, no Betsy in 1965, no Galveston 1900, guess why? Brewinblue Nov 2012 #28

Very poor attempt. The Doctor. Nov 2012 #36

+1 eggplant Nov 2012 #43

how much infrastructure druidity33 Nov 2012 #54

There was plenty of infrastructure in Galveston in 1900 when the hurricane hit slackmaster Nov 2012 #67

what i'm saying druidity33 Nov 2012 #71

Saw the excellent movie and we did not learn goclark Nov 2012 #30

Time for a windfall profit tax on big oil to pay for their messes. grahamhgreen Nov 2012 #31

And a bill to Big Oil for services rendered. Old and In the Way Nov 2012 #68

Agreed! We have to keep hammering htem about who is responsible, Pigpen... grahamhgreen Nov 2012 #69

That's all well and good..... Old and In the Way Nov 2012 #70

SHARED. On Facebook. And I am now beginning to rub people's noses in it. calimary Nov 2012 #32

There is no longer any question. The Doctor. Nov 2012 #34

Robmey's voters: "Who cares?" Amonester Nov 2012 #37

major MAJOR KICK defacto7 Nov 2012 #41

For those of us stuck because of the storm, thanks for rubbing it in DainBramaged Nov 2012 #42

Look over there... berni_mccoy Nov 2012 #44

I am a guest at my daughters DainBramaged Nov 2012 #47

In my best Carly Simon: Doremus Nov 2012 #55

For the public, go to hell. you got my pm DainBramaged Nov 2012 #56

You might be able to get emergency food stamps. femmedem Nov 2012 #63

My crazy conservative friend has even accepted this Patiod Nov 2012 #45

Jimmy Carter began trying to change the energy policy of this country japple Nov 2012 #46

James Hansen has been saying this since the 1970s _ed_ Nov 2012 #48

We need to embrace our visionaries, not mock them. NCarolinawoman Nov 2012 #49

It breaks my heart to think of the time and lives we have lost rosesaylavee Nov 2012 #50

Yet some people on this website are still pushing the "this doesn't prove anything" line. limpyhobbler Nov 2012 #52

watching it again. thanks. PowerToThePeople Nov 2012 #58

A way forward Gabby Hayes Nov 2012 #60

I suggest... sendero Nov 2012 #62

Huge K and R! n/t Shankapotomus Nov 2012 #64