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oldhippie

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24. Well, I guess you just made my point .......

Sat Jan 14, 2012, 02:12 PM

Jan 2012

Education and Environmental Protection, to give just two of your examples, are not mentioned, covered, constrained, or guaranteed by the Fed Constitution. By what authority do you declare that they should be guaranteed at the National level, rather than by the people in the states. Just because you think it's a good idea? What if the people in the other states don't think it's a good idea? They don't know what's good for them? Make them do it your way anyway?

Would you want the people in Texas or Kansas deciding what the Federal standards and protections are for the teaching of creationism for the whole country?

I guess as long as everyone does what I think is right it would be good to have it a national standard.

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I am sick and tired of hearing the "leave it up to the states" argument [View all] Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 OP

libertarianism is a fine philosophical exercise. mopinko Jan 2012 #1

I find it amusing Lawlbringer Jan 2012 #2

The Civil Rights movement needs to free all debt slaves from the hard bondage of central banksterism phasma ex machina Jan 2012 #3

Me too. Here's one that really chaps my hide... Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #4

States Rights are biting Citizens United in the ass Zalatix Jan 2012 #5

I could have sworn my civics texts talked about the UNITED states of america. shouldn't that mean, niyad Jan 2012 #6

You mean like the "health care reform"? Edweird Jan 2012 #7

It would seem to me all these strict "Constitutionalists" really, really hate justiceischeap Jan 2012 #8

We need a new constitutional amendment further strengthening our Bill of rights think Jan 2012 #9

We tried a Confederacy. It failed. dawg Jan 2012 #10

Why do you hate democracy? oldhippie Jan 2012 #11

Guess I should have phrased better Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #21

Well, I guess you just made my point ....... oldhippie Jan 2012 #24

Equal opportunity and access to Education is a fundamental human right Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #28

OK, thanks. I understand your position completely oldhippie Jan 2012 #31

Or kind of like Abraham Lincoln or LBJ Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #32

Democracy undoubtedly is this best system Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #33

ok,ponder this DonCoquixote Jan 2012 #35

That situation is already covered under the Constitution oldhippie Jan 2012 #36

My dispute is that education and marriage ARE covered (albeit not expressly) under the constitution Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #38

I guess it must be in that invisible "prenumbra" thingee? oldhippie Jan 2012 #39

Or you know the 9th Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #40

Yep! oldhippie Jan 2012 #44

I Didn't care much about this season Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #45

disagreement DonCoquixote Jan 2012 #41

We should only "leave it up to the states" when the federal govenment won't do what we want. hughee99 Jan 2012 #12

Situational Democracy. What an interesting idea... n/t cherokeeprogressive Jan 2012 #13

I believe in the personal freedom to choose for one's self socialindependocrat Jan 2012 #14

Here, this graphic will make you happy... JackRiddler Jan 2012 #15

It is hard to find anything to like about the Republicans running so I do concur it's nice to have think Jan 2012 #18

Imagine the difference. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #20

He is not the worst in the field and I like your scenario Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #22

Until progressives speak up and give the youth alternatives they will unfortunately find RP think Jan 2012 #25

A minority, right? JackRiddler Jan 2012 #30

In the past states rights were used to justify slavery, and today it is used as a variation of the still_one Jan 2012 #16

So Delaware should be forced to have the same gun laws as Montana? Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #17

well put think Jan 2012 #19

My state is full of assholes! superpatriotman Jan 2012 #23

"Why the Articles of Confederation Failed" - a good primer bhikkhu Jan 2012 #26

What about Medical Marihuana? former9thward Jan 2012 #27

Refer to my above post Dragonbreathp9d Jan 2012 #34

Not how govewrnment works or will ever work. former9thward Jan 2012 #42

THAT question was settled in 1865. bvar22 Jan 2012 #29

Happily recommend this thread. William769 Jan 2012 #37

Right wingers want some state they can capture and live in happily ever after treestar Jan 2012 #43

Agreed. ellisonz Jan 2012 #46

I just remind them that was the justification slave owners used. Odin2005 Jan 2012 #47