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This isn't a new argument... ohheckyeah Oct 2012 #1
I would prefer that we move away from biblical arguments altogether, MadHound Oct 2012 #2
I feel the same way. GreenPartyVoter Oct 2012 #4
I feel much the same - However, fighting the pro-zygote crowd with science GoneOffShore Oct 2012 #14
Yes, this is what they believe in . This is proof to them. The Wielding Truth Oct 2012 #40
I agree. Michigan Alum Nov 2012 #62
You are correct. MsPithy Nov 2012 #72
exactly RainDog Nov 2012 #76
Amen... onecent Oct 2012 #31
I don't but sometimes Ichingcarpenter Oct 2012 #8
it would be nice to have a response to their attitude that liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #48
I don't know... In general I would agree with you but... Xyzse Oct 2012 #9
I disagree.... ohheckyeah Oct 2012 #11
I wish we could Heathen57 Oct 2012 #36
What you prefer and what sometimes has to happen WilliamPitt Oct 2012 #43
it's wasted breath in any event.... mike_c Oct 2012 #46
Exactly. CrispyQ Oct 2012 #55
I want to recommend this post. loudsue Nov 2012 #73
Colbert rocks! CrispyQ Nov 2012 #74
No it's not wasted breath.... ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #63
I didn't know this. The Breath of Life. Yes. libdem4life Oct 2012 #3
How do Republicans get around this? KansDem Oct 2012 #5
This enquiring mind wants to know. nt justiceischeap Oct 2012 #10
They say that the fetus breaths by using the oxygen in the blood. L0oniX Oct 2012 #54
Interesting counter argument defacto7 Oct 2012 #6
Will come in handy with rwingers BainsBane Oct 2012 #7
This shows their true colors treestar Oct 2012 #12
The sperm and ovum are alive on a cellular level before they unite. Qutzupalotl Oct 2012 #20
The fetus is not separate from the mother. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #27
Agreed. Qutzupalotl Oct 2012 #32
Bookmarking for later. Thanks! Lucinda Oct 2012 #13
left wing 'eisogesis' is as bad as right wing eisogesis. grantcart Oct 2012 #15
It's spelled ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #64
well actually I believe that it is spelled grantcart Nov 2012 #67
Actually, traditional Catholic teaching nichomachus Oct 2012 #16
In the Middle Ages, a Catholic priest told me, the fetus was not considered to be alive until the JDPriestly Oct 2012 #28
You were alive in the Middle Ages? GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #51
A Catholic priest told me that . . . . JDPriestly Oct 2012 #53
I don't know anyone who's felt a baby move in the third month. It's usually the fourth or fifth, gkhouston Nov 2012 #60
Actually, in Islam they believe the fetus gets its soul on the 120th day TexasBushwhacker Nov 2012 #61
End of the third month, which would be the beginning of the fourth month. JDPriestly Nov 2012 #77
Thanks. MissMarple Oct 2012 #17
I've always believed this Flying Dream Blues Oct 2012 #18
Also God commanded Moses not to count children under a month old in the census cags Oct 2012 #19
And don't forget God's commandment that all the children and babies of the Amalekites be murdered. cags Oct 2012 #22
FUNDAMENTALISTS SHOULD KNOW THIS FACT ROBROX Oct 2012 #21
yep, I always use that argument on Bible fappers. They find it hard to refute. librechik Oct 2012 #23
Those parts don't apply. obxhead Oct 2012 #24
I grew up reading the Bible. We are human beings from the moment we take our first breath. JDPriestly Oct 2012 #25
Bookmarked for later tnlurker Oct 2012 #26
K&R SunSeeker Oct 2012 #29
Nice, but it won't matter to the anti-choice crowd. Matariki Oct 2012 #30
Actually the generally held belief by all was that life began with the first breath until teewrex Oct 2012 #33
It's clear they don't really care about life. DaveJ Oct 2012 #34
And anti-death penalty KamaAina Oct 2012 #45
With respect, and understanding that in life... BlueNoteSpecial Oct 2012 #35
It's not so much an argument to convince the zealots rock Oct 2012 #37
Thanks for posting. Sherman A1 Oct 2012 #38
Great find. Thanks for posting! Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2012 #39
Will vs Choice Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2012 #41
logic won't work with these folks. spanone Oct 2012 #42
Bookmarked for future reference kentuck Oct 2012 #44
Recced and book marked. progressoid Oct 2012 #47
It's not the only part of the Bible they don't follow.... Wounded Bear Oct 2012 #49
I love how they quote Leviticus liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #50
Your position might be better than the average fundy's, but your argument isn't. D23MIURG23 Oct 2012 #52
This is interesting to know. CrispyQ Oct 2012 #56
Yeah, I heard that upi402 Oct 2012 #57
Hence Orthodox Jews don't spout off the crap about it being a live human Sgent Oct 2012 #58
Meh. That's the Old Testament. Duer 157099 Nov 2012 #59
Whoa!!! The bible had EMOTICONS??? cui bono Nov 2012 #65
K&R-ing theinquisitivechad Nov 2012 #66
I find it interesting that religious christians today fasttense Nov 2012 #68
They don't care. The Doctor. Nov 2012 #69
The "pro-life" movement's goal isn't to stop abortions or to protect life YoungDemCA Nov 2012 #70
First breath SamKnause Nov 2012 #71
kindly keep all dogma away from my reproductive decisions PeaceNikki Nov 2012 #75
Further, abortion, using natural medications, existed MineralMan Nov 2012 #78
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