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Ms. Toad

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24. It actually has even more basis than the potential for overturning settled law.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 05:27 PM
Jun 2022

See my explanation here.

I had not read the dissent when I explained the quote attributed to Thomas - and I know the general law from Smith. I have now read the dissent. I haven't read the underlying case Thomas cited - but it is an exception to Smith which (at least on its face) passes the laugh test.

So you don't have to go chase my other post: Essentially the argument is that state potentially lost the "generally applicable" safe harbor when it allowed people with secular objections (medical exemptions) to continue working as long as they took certain precautions to protect others. That different treatment for secular reasons may have rendered the generally applicable law no longer generally applicable. If so, it's harder to force people to violate their religious beliefs which run contrary to state law (or the equivalent).

I understand the reasoning for NY limiting the exemption to medical exemptions - if it was opened up to all objections, for any reason, it would gut the law. It is a compelling interest (keeping the number of unvaccinated healthcare workers to an absolute minimum), to which the requirement is directly related (only a very few will have true medical contraindications - so a universal rule with a single category of exemptions serves that goal). The question is whether there is another way to serve that interest without treating religious exemptions different from all others.

The truism in law is that the plaintiff wins if the test is strict scrutiny; the state wins if it is rational basis. It isn't always true - but it is most of the time.

So - who knows. But - at least for now - 6 justices aren't interested in resolving that particular question.

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I would strongly encourage him not to take any vaccines, and go into large crowds without a mask JohnSJ Jun 2022 #1
I would do the opposite atreides1 Jun 2022 #5
The Supreme Court... ultralite001 Jun 2022 #2
Bizarre! empedocles Jun 2022 #4
Definitely... ultralite001 Jun 2022 #7
Yeah, a very predictable moron. emulatorloo Jun 2022 #3
STFU, Clarence. LuckyCharms Jun 2022 #6
He should be impeached. FeelingBlue Jun 2022 #8
Clarence Thomas is a fucking idiot. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #9
And he's a justice in the USA . . . . Lovie777 Jun 2022 #10
Actually, some of the cells used in creating/testing the COVID vaccine were HeLa cells... woodsprite Jun 2022 #11
Read what he actually said. It is factually accurate. Ms. Toad Jun 2022 #12
Remember the vaccine mandate exemption from Conway Health System? keep_left Jun 2022 #13
He wasn't objecting to the COVID vaccines. Ms. Toad Jun 2022 #16
But the case concerns the objection to the vaccines, which use an utterly ubiquitous technology... keep_left Jun 2022 #18
I am an attorney - which is why I explained what he actually said - Ms. Toad Jun 2022 #21
Thank you for explaining this. It just seems absurd... keep_left Jun 2022 #22
It actually has even more basis than the potential for overturning settled law. Ms. Toad Jun 2022 #24
As expected from the holy (in his mind) Thomas. Progressive dog Jun 2022 #14
Then he must be very happy that those "aborted children" saved Chump's life FakeNoose Jun 2022 #15
It has to be true blueinredohio Jun 2022 #17
That was my very first though Javaman Jun 2022 #20
Lazy ignorant asshole repeats what he heard on Fox News dalton99a Jun 2022 #19
Get the net BlueIdaho Jun 2022 #23
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