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TigressDem

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25. We need GUN INSURANCE for responsible gun owners. Treat it like car ownership, driving rights.
Sat Jul 2, 2022, 10:56 AM
Jul 2022

The reasoning behind people having to learn to drive, prove it and keep proving they are responsible drivers is that a car is basically a multi-ton weapon that COULD kill (and does - often even with all our processes and protections in place).

BUT a GUN IS A DEADLY WEAPON.

When they hand a soldier a weapon, they train the soldier to take it apart and put it back together, field strip it.

They teach soldiers how and when to shoot and how to deal with it in pressure situations. Same with police.

SO WHY do we treat guns in the general populace like mopeds? Even AR-15's can be bought and used without a single test passed to verify this person is able to use it without killing themselves or others accidentally, let alone be bat shit crazy enough to do it on purpose.

I guess I can understand, BB Guns are like mopeds, practice for the real thing.

Even hunting on your own land or at a shooting range I can see as not a big deal, but when a DEADLY WEAPON is going to Church, the grocery store, the mall; it needs to have enough regulation that everyone is on the same page and we don't have MASS MURDERS.

People drive ATVs and even unlicensed cars on their own property, but when we get together as a society, we have stop signs, traffic lights, rules of the road so that our interactions cause less conflict and strife for everyone involved.

Because getting in an accident and being injured or dying and wrecking your car or killing someone is going to mess up people's lives. It still does even with basic regulation, but imagine life with cars having as little common sense law applied as guns.


IF we can use our brain cells and make driving cars work with basic safety for group situations mandated for the protection of Life and Liberty for the entire population, not just car owners; then we can do it for guns and gun owners too.


THE Talking Point, if there is JUST ONE must start with, "Hey, we know there are responsible gun owners who don't go off shooting people at the mall just because AND we want to see that people who own guns meet that standard. It isn't an OFFENSE to those gun owners to have laws, we are looking to them as the EXAMPLE of how it needs to be done."

Because, honestly, that is the truth.

If everyone who picked up a gun was just going hunting with it, wanting to show off and hit a target at a range, kill some coyotes on their land, defend their home from intruders.....

IF ALL gun owners were automatically going to act that way, there would be no problem with zero regulation on gun ownership.

BUT people are human. We aren't exactly the same.

SO a basic skill level and some common sense laws regarding how people interact with a gun in a public place is as needed as drivers license tests and rules for the road.

And insurance for when even with the best of intentions people have accidents or are stupid and drive drunk, handle a gun while psychotic..... you know be human and think you can when you can't and someone else dies for your stupidity?

Well, not YOUR specifically, but you know what I mean.


RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS AREN'T THE PROBLEM or the REASON we need COMMON SENSE GUN LAWS.

AND we need them to be the example for everyone else who picks up a gun.

Gun owners probably SHOULD be self regulating, but we have seen for at least one hundred years that too many are NOT.

SO because MURDER IS ILLEGAL and people use guns to MURDER others, we need to get some way to insure that other people's stupid doesn't make someone dead for no reason.

It's time.


IMPEACH the scrotum SCOTUS of it's lying, power grabbing, legislate from the bench felons and let's get on with appointing honest, respectful, constitutional scholar types who would NEVER think of using SCOTUS as a place to rule the World.








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Well, if it is the State's right to police their population as they will in TX or FL, NY can TOO. TigressDem Jul 2022 #1
And don't forget that Trump could shoot someone in Times Square and get away with it. Baitball Blogger Jul 2022 #5
Think that is why they added Times Square to the list? TigressDem Jul 2022 #23
Some of this will stand; some will not. Straw Man Jul 2022 #2
Probably the same for protests and places of worship FBaggins Jul 2022 #4
This is what I would call unserious legislation - legislation that will never survive a court Midwestern Democrat Jul 2022 #18
We need GUN INSURANCE for responsible gun owners. Treat it like car ownership, driving rights. TigressDem Jul 2022 #25
This has been repeated so many times here NickB79 Jul 2022 #30
The insurance is for the GOOD guys. TigressDem Jul 2022 #31
That's not how insurance works NickB79 Jul 2022 #36
You have every "right" to be rich in your pursuit of happiness. TigressDem Jul 2022 #38
You still haven't explained how your "insurance" plan would work NickB79 Jul 2022 #46
Car ownership requires a transparent process and people have to identify themselves. TigressDem Jul 2022 #49
It also would never survive the new scrutiny under Bruen Amishman Jul 2022 #50
Bruen ONLY dimissed the requirement "to prove the need to carry for self defense" TigressDem Jul 2022 #56
You are incorrect, please read this WaPo article which confirms what I said Amishman Jul 2022 #79
By that reasoning, we should have no laws... Ohio Joe Jul 2022 #35
It's giving the stores the power to say, "NO" on their own property. TigressDem Jul 2022 #39
Well said Ohio Joe Jul 2022 #41
Thanks TigressDem Jul 2022 #43
Property owners have always been able to ban guns on their property ... Straw Man Jul 2022 #47
It isn't about statutes, because THIS is a CHANGE to statutes - the new normal. TigressDem Jul 2022 #48
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2022 #64
they probably have that right now treestar Jul 2022 #72
They do. Straw Man Jul 2022 #77
Absurd reasoning. Straw Man Jul 2022 #54
Non-sense... Ohio Joe Jul 2022 #55
We were talking about concealed carry in supermarkets. Straw Man Jul 2022 #57
In post #54 you said... Ohio Joe Jul 2022 #58
I know what I said. Straw Man Jul 2022 #59
I'm in New York and if I saw some joker in public carrying a gun, I'd assume he was dangerous Rhiannon12866 Jul 2022 #3
I live in Florida. And if I see a gun in a public place, I'm leaving the store. Baitball Blogger Jul 2022 #6
Yikes! Same here! Why would anyone carry a gun into a store? I can answer that and it's not good Rhiannon12866 Jul 2022 #7
From now on, jog out and tell everyone you pass, "Gun!" Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #9
Florida is not a open carry state so to do so would be illegal EX500rider Jul 2022 #27
Me too. It's time for all of us to start screaming "GUN!" in crowded Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #8
That's an awfully good idea. I was just picturing this at the store I usually go to once a week Rhiannon12866 Jul 2022 #10
You know, it just occurred to me while I was reading the thread. But it IS Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #11
If anyone ends up getting trampled in a stampede, too bad for them MichMan Jul 2022 #20
Shelbyville, Indiana, Big Lots. tavernier Jul 2022 #12
From now on, point at him and tell other shoppers, "GUN!" and jog out of the store. Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #13
But on the other hand tavernier Jul 2022 #14
But these are the ones we see, these are the ones who are trying to intimidate Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #17
+100 Rhiannon12866 Jul 2022 #66
RIGHT !! Give no one the benefit of the doubt uponit7771 Jul 2022 #67
RIGHT !! Give ***NO ONE*** the benefit of the doubt uponit7771 Jul 2022 #68
I also live in NY. I said this to my wife recently. fightforfreedom Jul 2022 #16
Good idea MichMan Jul 2022 #21
Act like it's still COVID and order to pick up. TigressDem Jul 2022 #32
That's the thing! How are we supposed to know that we haven't walked into the middle of a holdup?? Rhiannon12866 Jul 2022 #69
That's easy. Straw Man Jul 2022 #82
Well ... Straw Man Jul 2022 #78
+1, give no one the benefit of the doubt uponit7771 Jul 2022 #65
Same here! Rhiannon12866 Jul 2022 #70
+1, good point uponit7771 Jul 2022 #71
If there is no sign on a store that specifically allows guns, ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2022 #15
So let's play this out 2-3 years DVRacer Jul 2022 #19
Probably not even that long FBaggins Jul 2022 #22
Yeah, this is strange legislation. PTWB Jul 2022 #24
It's a knee-jerk "Oh yeah?" response to the recent SCOTUS ruling. Straw Man Jul 2022 #60
Not much different then Michigan Kaleva Jul 2022 #26
Where does it say that carrying in all private business is prohibited by default in Mich.? MichMan Jul 2022 #28
Where did I say there's no difference? Kaleva Jul 2022 #33
There's a huge difference. Straw Man Jul 2022 #61
Large areas of NY are Red Kaleva Jul 2022 #73
But many areas are blue. Straw Man Jul 2022 #74
Area wise, it looks like 2/3 of NY is Red Kaleva Jul 2022 #75
Hmm ... Straw Man Jul 2022 #76
I applaud the new law SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #29
I think IF we had this law AFTER Columbine and kept this attitude instead of going the other way... TigressDem Jul 2022 #34
We can SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #37
On particulars, sure. TigressDem Jul 2022 #40
Oh I agree on all points SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #44
We could DO IT Old West with some updated Style.... TigressDem Jul 2022 #51
And do you believe SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #52
No. TigressDem Jul 2022 #53
Fear buttons. Straw Man Jul 2022 #62
So you're a Republican now? TigressDem Jul 2022 #80
No, nor will I ever be one. Straw Man Jul 2022 #81
In some respects, we live in different worlds. Straw Man Jul 2022 #63
Peace. TigressDem Jul 2022 #42
K&R UTUSN Jul 2022 #45
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