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In reply to the discussion: New York Legislature passes bill that would ban guns from many public places [View all]TigressDem
(5,126 posts)The reasoning behind people having to learn to drive, prove it and keep proving they are responsible drivers is that a car is basically a multi-ton weapon that COULD kill (and does - often even with all our processes and protections in place).
BUT a GUN IS A DEADLY WEAPON.
When they hand a soldier a weapon, they train the soldier to take it apart and put it back together, field strip it.
They teach soldiers how and when to shoot and how to deal with it in pressure situations. Same with police.
SO WHY do we treat guns in the general populace like mopeds? Even AR-15's can be bought and used without a single test passed to verify this person is able to use it without killing themselves or others accidentally, let alone be bat shit crazy enough to do it on purpose.
I guess I can understand, BB Guns are like mopeds, practice for the real thing.
Even hunting on your own land or at a shooting range I can see as not a big deal, but when a DEADLY WEAPON is going to Church, the grocery store, the mall; it needs to have enough regulation that everyone is on the same page and we don't have MASS MURDERS.
People drive ATVs and even unlicensed cars on their own property, but when we get together as a society, we have stop signs, traffic lights, rules of the road so that our interactions cause less conflict and strife for everyone involved.
Because getting in an accident and being injured or dying and wrecking your car or killing someone is going to mess up people's lives. It still does even with basic regulation, but imagine life with cars having as little common sense law applied as guns.
IF we can use our brain cells and make driving cars work with basic safety for group situations mandated for the protection of Life and Liberty for the entire population, not just car owners; then we can do it for guns and gun owners too.
THE Talking Point, if there is JUST ONE must start with, "Hey, we know there are responsible gun owners who don't go off shooting people at the mall just because AND we want to see that people who own guns meet that standard. It isn't an OFFENSE to those gun owners to have laws, we are looking to them as the EXAMPLE of how it needs to be done."
Because, honestly, that is the truth.
If everyone who picked up a gun was just going hunting with it, wanting to show off and hit a target at a range, kill some coyotes on their land, defend their home from intruders.....
IF ALL gun owners were automatically going to act that way, there would be no problem with zero regulation on gun ownership.
BUT people are human. We aren't exactly the same.
SO a basic skill level and some common sense laws regarding how people interact with a gun in a public place is as needed as drivers license tests and rules for the road.
And insurance for when even with the best of intentions people have accidents or are stupid and drive drunk, handle a gun while psychotic..... you know be human and think you can when you can't and someone else dies for your stupidity?
Well, not YOUR specifically, but you know what I mean.
RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS AREN'T THE PROBLEM or the REASON we need COMMON SENSE GUN LAWS.
AND we need them to be the example for everyone else who picks up a gun.
Gun owners probably SHOULD be self regulating, but we have seen for at least one hundred years that too many are NOT.
SO because MURDER IS ILLEGAL and people use guns to MURDER others, we need to get some way to insure that other people's stupid doesn't make someone dead for no reason.
It's time.
IMPEACH the scrotum SCOTUS of it's lying, power grabbing, legislate from the bench felons and let's get on with appointing honest, respectful, constitutional scholar types who would NEVER think of using SCOTUS as a place to rule the World.