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Mariana

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33. I have my doubts as well.

Reply to atufal (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 1, 2012, 06:54 PM

Nov 2012

No story in the Daily Mail should be taken as gospel.

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Not everyone was a good neighbor in Sandy...Mother refused help, children found dead in storm.. [View all] HipChick Nov 2012 OP

My god! PatSeg Nov 2012 #1

Terrible. Jennicut Nov 2012 #2

From the same ilk that refused to let Katrina victims walk across Miss. River bridge to safety KeepItReal Nov 2012 #3

Heartless. I don't know why, but I knew when I clicked the link, the mother was black panAmerican Nov 2012 #4

But you do not know from the DM story the race of those who snagglepuss Nov 2012 #26

Sounds a little like the Kitty Genovese case Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #40

It was worse because it people walked by him as he lay in the street. snagglepuss Nov 2012 #45

Not the Kitty Genovese story. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #52

Not sure of your point. snagglepuss Nov 2012 #58

Say what you want, but I'm betting race is a factor. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #51

You are going to jump to a conclusion with no facts whatsoever. You sound snagglepuss Nov 2012 #60

I once knocked on a door in the Bronx to ask for help & got nothing but a voice through the door KittyWampus Nov 2012 #108

I hope those vile people never sleep again magical thyme Nov 2012 #5

She Shouldn't Have Been Out In The First Place SoCalMusicLover Nov 2012 #6

Even though there was no hope for the kids.. ananda Nov 2012 #7

We don't know if race was involved. I remember a snagglepuss Nov 2012 #14

Yeah... or... harmonicon Nov 2012 #70

paraphrasing someone from our past . . . she didn't know what she didn't know. ellenfl Nov 2012 #22

My God to this. Darth_Kitten Nov 2012 #28

This area was under a mandatory evacuation order. No, they shouldn't have.... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #31

"She should have left much earlier in the day".... Really? underseasurveyor Nov 2012 #53

+1. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #109

really? SemperEadem Nov 2012 #67

you heaven05 Nov 2012 #69

So SoCal, would YOU want to read what you just wrote about YOU drynberg Nov 2012 #91

I'm glad you feel Dorian Gray Nov 2012 #97

They're just not going to get over this. lindysalsagal Nov 2012 #8

That is absolutely barbaric. I am nauseated. Butterbean Nov 2012 #9

If there's a hell..... RagAss Nov 2012 #10

Yeah, pretty much. And hopefully they'll also experience a good bit of it... Barack_America Nov 2012 #21

That is beyond horrific. There is another story at DM about a woman whose snagglepuss Nov 2012 #11

were they ABLE to heed the advice is the question SemperEadem Nov 2012 #94

The women who lost her two sons was a nurse who owned snagglepuss Nov 2012 #106

yeah, a car that stalled--not much better than having no car SemperEadem Nov 2012 #111

They both had ample warning and the means to leave way before the storm hit. snagglepuss Nov 2012 #112

Most people aren't going to risk their life for a stranger. LisaL Nov 2012 #12

How Awful. . . BigDemVoter Nov 2012 #13

Calling 911 would have sufficed panAmerican Nov 2012 #17

If that was indeed a mandatory evac. area then no police would have responded in the height of the NotThisTime Nov 2012 #19

Taking a look at the Evacuation zones and Google, hedgehog Nov 2012 #25

Excellent points. nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #32

Would 911 even responded if this happened in the midst of the storm? snagglepuss Nov 2012 #23

not in a mandatory evac. zone NotThisTime Nov 2012 #74

No, and they shouldn't have obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #98

Heartbreakingly tragic. AtomicKitten Nov 2012 #15

Somebody posted about it the other day and it's been haunting me ever since. Barack_America Nov 2012 #59

OK. I'm from Chicago and I don't believe it. atufal Nov 2012 #16

I have my doubts as well. Mariana Nov 2012 #33

Are you crazy? Check ALL the news stories. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #47

The UK Daily Mail finds out much. It's ONLY a MAJOR news vehicle. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #50

Me either obamanut2012 Nov 2012 #93

I don't understand defacto7 Nov 2012 #18

So you would jump into water and drown for a stranger? LisaL Nov 2012 #20

I have risked my life for a stranger, and would do so again. eqfan592 Nov 2012 #24

Well, in my experience, most people are nothing like you. LisaL Nov 2012 #29

must suck to live in your world, then... SemperEadem Nov 2012 #95

She asked them to call 911, it's easy if you try SaveAmerica Nov 2012 #54

911 might not show up in mandatory evacuation zones. LisaL Nov 2012 #75

a little too broad of a reply for me... defacto7 Nov 2012 #76

The reality was that nothing could be done, anyway. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #64

No way, my friend and I were talking about that time, he had gone out in that area for a brief NotThisTime Nov 2012 #73

At the risk of being flamed for being heartless and cold, I have a question about this article.... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #27

From the New York Post - hedgehog Nov 2012 #36

6pm was the brunt of it. slutticus Nov 2012 #57

You could be right... defacto7 Nov 2012 #84

I live an hour north of Staten Island, and I am in NYC all the time. lindysalsagal Nov 2012 #30

I hope the schmucks who refused to help her see this... ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #34

Another woman was burned to ashes while neighbors watched on ecstatic Nov 2012 #35

There was no way for them to help unless somehow they could have found some hedgehog Nov 2012 #37

1. What was she doing? ...and 2. How was anyone supposed to "help" her.... PavePusher Nov 2012 #38

True. There was no way for anyone to help in that situation. Even 911 responders. nt Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #65

There are some things that are impossible. defacto7 Nov 2012 #80

how were they supposed to help in this case ? it's not even a matter of giving your life JI7 Nov 2012 #41

DID YOU EVEN READ THE OP? SHE BEGGED THE FIRST GUY TO CALL 911. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #49

yes, now read the post i replied to which is a different case JI7 Nov 2012 #56

How do you they didn't? Furthermore I doubt that emergency responders would have snagglepuss Nov 2012 #61

I would not try to save someone who was connected to a live wire malaise Nov 2012 #42

I would (the live wire thing) FSogol Nov 2012 #96

I need to take first aid lessons on that malaise Nov 2012 #103

You would push a DOWNED LIVE UTILITY WIRE away with a rolled up newspaper? KittyWampus Nov 2012 #110

No way to effect a rescue safely nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #44

This is heartbreaking. BUT, I don't feel you can blame the neighbors for not coming - lynne Nov 2012 #39

She was asking them to call 911. HARDLY "coming out". WinkyDink Nov 2012 #48

911 couldn't respond or get to her. Not in any sort of reasonable time span, anyway, if at all. Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #66

I would hope they would have called 911 - lynne Nov 2012 #71

911 wouldn't have responded at that time. Lone_Star_Dem Nov 2012 #72

Hindsight is 20/20 defacto7 Nov 2012 #83

There are scads of psychological studies that explain this nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #43

I'm calling it now: RACISM. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #46

I'm not going to say anything good about this incident Aerows Nov 2012 #55

Doesn't surprise me at all demhottie Nov 2012 #62

Staten Island is also overwhelmingly REPUBLICAN. That explains a lot. smirkymonkey Nov 2012 #63

I live in Bay Ridge Brooklyn, which is on the other side of the bridge from SI. I do not go there... hrmjustin Nov 2012 #68

Kids most likely drowned before anyone could try to help. LisaL Nov 2012 #79

True! Very sad story. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #82

They could have at least TRIED demhottie Nov 2012 #85

Of course but there was a lot they could have done former-republican Nov 2012 #86

I wonder if any of them were among the ones that were pleading for help on tv today...? BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #77

That story would have went differently in the country. former-republican Nov 2012 #78

That's utterly offensive. You don't know jack about cities, and that's obvious. n/t susanna Nov 2012 #89

Yup. Country folk would have shot her. ieoeja Nov 2012 #104

Cowards...these are the same assholes who seem to think they need to buy up bread and milk... RagAss Nov 2012 #81

The children most likely died shortly after being ripped from their mother's arms. Kaleva Nov 2012 #87

Without even seeing her picture, I knew she was a woman of color bermudat Nov 2012 #88

Just saw the asshole on CNN Separation Nov 2012 #90

This is disgraceful... HipChick Nov 2012 #92

OMFG. I hope karma kicks him when he's down, and I hope it's with a steel toed boot. Butterbean Nov 2012 #102

Here's the CNN Interview .99center Nov 2012 #99

sad.. HipChick Nov 2012 #107

From what I can see. mstinamotorcity2 Nov 2012 #100

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