Ohio Joe (19,256 posts)
7. Different cases have different approaches...
The case in Georgia is not a mob case, the 1/6 case is... That you refuse to understand this does not change the facts. Without having underlings testifying against tfg, the DOJ case would have zero chance.
"Let's cut to the chase, Fani Willis is way ahead of DOJ. A DOJ trial of Trump would never happen until mid 2024 into 2025. A Fani Willis trial could occur much sooner. To be fair, Fani is only going through a special grand jury where she is gathering evidence, but the next step would be an indictment of Trump for as many as 4 crimes."
The next step is not an indictment, it is another Grand Jury that may return an indictment.
"I have a question for the legal beagles, why can't Fani Willis subpoena people like Pat Cipollone and Mark Meadows? Would she have to go through the courts to get them to show up? If they did show up would they get immunity in just the state of Georgia but not immunity in a federal trial, were that to happen?"
Meadows and Cipollone are not being subpoenaed in Georgia for the same reason the Meadows did not get prosecuted for refusing one from congress. It's called 'testimonial immunity'. This allows top advisors to the President to not have to testify about private conversations they have with the President. Congress gave it a gamble with Meadows and he partially complied but then stopped... Congress cannot prosecute so they made a referral to DOJ. DOJ would have had a year long legal process to try and convict that would have been eventually stopped by the Supreme Court... They would have 90% lost a contempt charge against Meadows because of testimonial immunity... Mix in partial compliance and it goes to 100%. Either the feds or Georgia giving Meadows immunity would not change testimonial immunity, he would still not have to talk about any private conversations and would only gain immunity from any crimes committed. Again... This could be fought but the Supreme Court would see to it. It would be a waste of a lot of time that you seem so concerned with.
"I wish that DOJ had run a parallel investigation along with Georgia, but it didn't."
DOJ was not asked to run a parallel investigation and without such a request, they don't just decide it will happen... They can't. They could have claimed jurisdiction and taken it themselves leaving Georgia out of the loop but did not do that... They rarely go first when a state wants to prosecute. They will still have the option of prosecuting for federal crimes when the state case is over, regardless of outcome as it is a separate crime.
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